Help dumping Moto Racer (E)

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Help dumping Moto Racer (E)

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edit: Stupid question that i solved myself
Just to know, is it normal to have 150 sectors of zero of the end of a data track (pregap of Track02?)
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Re: Help dumping Moto Racer (E)

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EAC sometimes reports wrong pregap on first audio track, I see that on DB pregap is 3seconds, try to detect gaps with another drive.
By the way your data track seems too big if it's the same game in DB https://redump.info/disc/1001/ (63648 sectors).
150 sectors of 0x00 are normal if you had to cut pregap of first audio track.

Sorry, but it's an original disc? I asked you this because bigger M2/2352 tracks and 0 pregaps can be found easily in P2P dumps.
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Re: Help dumping Moto Racer (E)

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Yep i dump from original medias (don't think it's possible to make a redump.org dump from a copy)
It's the same game but for Windows

And for the zero lines and it was the same for my other release Fun Tracks (Ignition)
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Re: Help dumping Moto Racer (E)

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Sorry, in this case everything you said it's normal (also 0 sec pregap).
As you edit above yes 150sectors are 2 seconds pregap of track02. Sorry again for misunderstanding.
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Re: Help dumping Moto Racer (E)

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sorry didn't finish the other msg before your answer since i was verifying my other release.
So just to be sure before i made other releases and have to correct them after.

It's normal that the size said by cd mage (end sector) correspond to the size of ISO buster after i used resize.
And the end of the file is 150 sectors full of 0 with just a few lines used at the sector: "endsector-150"
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ulugabi wrote:It's normal that the size said by cd mage (end sector) correspond to the size of ISO buster after i used resize.
And the end of the file is 150 sectors full of 0 with just a few lines used at the sector: "endsector-150"
Yes, and if you don't cut those 150 sectors CDMage will always find errors because they are not in the same data format.
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Re: Help dumping Moto Racer (E)

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Hum not sure you totally get me:

For the errors for sure i know these 150 sectors have to be cut
My question was about the 150 ones from the last sectors with data to the end sector said by Iso buster or cd mage (after have used resize on the bin) which is by what we said the pregap. And if it's write i suppose if i download redump.org releases not made by me i will always found 150 sectors full of zero at the end of the data track of every CD data+audio?

And really thx for the answers since i know i like to be precise Image
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Re: Help dumping Moto Racer (E)

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Ok, I understand. Some CD may have more seconds of zeros at the end of data track (not pregap of track02), but normally you have some garbage and sector header every 2352 bytes (these are empty sectors but in raw format).
If you have only 0x00 probably track02 pregap is bigger than the one detected by EAC (it's not strange a track02 pregap of 4 seconds as it seems your CD).

PS: If you are having "track 01" opened by CDMAge or Iso Buster, Resize doesn't work (doesn't cut anything because file is open under another application), have you checked this?
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Re: Help dumping Moto Racer (E)

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i checked the 0 only on the cd with isobuster, i used resized without cdmage open.
Here i have a LG dvd writer, I have some old cd writer and driver (plextor ones 10 years old) so i think i will try to plug these on my pc tomorrow (its 4AM here Image or try on another computer and see if the crc are the same and contact u if there s a problem.
Maybe it's jsut the 2 cds which are like that (fun tracks and Moto Racer, two games from 1997). Cause here it looks logic, i dump the data track, delete the bad datas cause isobuster couldn't find the start of the audio track. And so finally i got an data track with 299 sectors full of zero (1,987 seconds) at the end and one sector with just 26 lines and zero after

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Re: Help dumping Moto Racer (E)

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Ok i checked on my sony laptop, the drive is a Matsushita UJ 832 (which by the brand name is a panasonic UJ 832 in the accurate drive list). I got the same CRC. So i suppose my dump is ok.

I just noticed something. Method A for gap detection is really fast on the laptop but longer on my LG drive; it s very long for the first audio track and after same speed as the laptop for the other tracks. Is it normal?
I tried method C: don't work freezes on a track and method B: gives really strang gap 0,16; 0,4; ...  and don't correspond to what detect my laptop or method A on my LG drive. I keep method A?
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