Datfiles and parent/clone relationships

[EliUmniCk]

why not like MAME does ?

for exemple :

<game name="Tekken Tag Tournament (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It) (v2.00)" cloneof="Tekken Tag Tournament (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It) (v1.00)">

<game name="Tekken Tag Tournament (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It) (v1.00)">

MAME uses the most recent USA version as a parent, earlier versions and japanese ones are clones.

I was just talking about the use of the "cloneof" element. ^^

Do like u want to determine which disc is the parent ^^

[Ecco]

I think the solution with the id is a good one
I would just suggest one extra:

In the Database we could use id names.

example:

<game name="Tekken Tag Tournament (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It) (v2.00)">
<group id="00556">

I would suggest to build in a search field.

For example:

You want submit a Game and don't know the group id.
You type in the name: *Tekken

You get all results to "Tekken" and and see which Titles with Tekken have which group id and just take the id that fits to the group.

I know, you can check the Discs manually too
But that's more comfortable. I just don't know, if this will get into high server loads???

[MrX_Cuci]

Grouping different verslons Seems like a bad idea. Goty edition is vastly different to original edition for example. Besides there could also be 1.1 goty editions. I would rather go mame style. Using the igr function of clrmame you can filter out the regions you personally want. Newest version should be parent no matter what region.

[jamjam]

GOTY edition is hard to categorise as it could mean many things, in my limited experience it means little more than a re-release with the latest patch, which is what I meant by it. When something gets re-released as game +  major expansion pack/major dlc combo on the same disc , then I think it should be in its own group (ie up to 3 groups: standalone game, expansion pack, combo). Some things will be borderline, it'll have to be discussed on a case by case basis.

It's all subject to opinion, and some of it will be hard to sort out (particularly pc, consoles play much nicer normally). Basically I think the golden rule should be if a disc could go into multiple groups, put it in a new group. If we follow it we wont go far wrong.

[Ecco]

I have one example:

Elder Scrolls, The - Morrowind

All Morrowind Standalone Versions should be merged as a set.
All Bloodmoon Addon Versions should be merged as a set.
All Tribunal Addon Versions should be mergend as a set.
All Morrowind GOTY Version should be merged as a set (Includes Morrowind, Bloodmoon, Tribunal).


Another Example:

Deus Ex Standard Edition should be merged together with Deus Ex GOTY Edition as a set.
Why: The GOTY Edition has no further Expansion Packs, no DLC, and no new content. It's just patched to the newest official Version and has some additional Bug Fixes.

http://deusex.wikia.com/wiki/Deus_Ex:_G … ar_Edition

I think it's to decide individually

[Ecco]

soooo.... any new news about this topic  ???