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user7 · Post by **user7** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:02 pm

sarami wrote:
user7 wrote:Another thing, a different CD-i disc has Track 1 Data (non-Windows filesystem), Track 2+ Redbook Audio.
DIC fails to start dumping because it can't find the write offset. Logs: https://drive.google.com/file/d/16lhvTk … sp=sharing
TOC is weird. Try to dump by the other drive.

I have bought a 716A to test, same result.

Logs: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jNBuzi … sp=sharing
Disc is this one: https://www.discogs.com/Various-Op-Jach … ase/789208

Detects multiple tracks, but Track 1 is not Windows filesystem, so DIC has a heart attack? xD just a guess.

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wiggy2k · Post by **wiggy2k** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:32 pm

@sarami

FMTowns disc is showing very weird behaviour.
Cuesheet :

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FILE "MARTYMEDIA (Track 01).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 01 MODE218/2352

please take a look at the logs:
the offset looks strange so the entire data stays scrambled. the CUE is wrong, it's just a mess.

Warning the Logs ended up being ~ 200Mb
https://mega.nz/file/el0GSSJS#BrXRbUJ7p … hJt4FpPhL8

sarami · Post by **sarami** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:49 pm

wiggy2k wrote:FMTowns disc is showing very weird behaviour.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/eq80y20l9 … st.7z/file
- fixed: check the offset twice when the combined offset is over 1 sector.

user7 wrote:Track 1 is not Windows filesystem, so DIC has a heart attack?

No, it's the disc or the drive problem.
. Change the disc. (There is a possibility that the lead-in area is damaged.)
. Change to the 0xf1 drive. (There is a possibility that Plextor does not support the disc.)
. Try to use the swap command. (The reason is the same as the above.)

user7 · Post by **user7** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:24 pm

sarami wrote:. Try to use the swap command. (The reason is the same as the above.)

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Creating bin (Track)  1/57
[F:CreateBin][L:1860] GetLastError: 8, Not enough memory resources are available to process this command.

bufSize: 4286565952
EndTime: 2020-10-14T10:23:54-0700

logs - https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Bbmhi … sp=sharing
Track 1 appears as data in isobuster, but as Audio in the DIC cue.

sarami · Post by **sarami** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:50 am

/viewtopic.php?p=25866#p25866
OpJackt is the same as DigitalVideoFreeDemoDiscCD-iWorld.

sarami wrote:2. multi-track and non-pregap in the 1st track and fulltoc says CD-I

user7 · Post by **user7** » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:47 am

Available here: https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/811877750?ev=bp_det

sarami · Post by **sarami** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:23 am

sarami wrote:
F1ReB4LL wrote:CD-i Bridge (Video CD, Photo CD)
Ah, yes.
5. multi-track and non-pregap in the 1st track and fulltoc says CD-ROM XA (normal Video CD, Photo CD)

F1ReB4LL wrote:Rainbow CD discs
I assume it's 2. Because "The Cranberries" has multi-track and non-pregap in the 1st track and fulltoc says CD-I.
To test, I ordered it by Amazon.com

I got "The Cranberries".

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Mastering Code (laser branded/etched): 9614-08120809   B50903-16
Mastering SID Code: L384
Toolstamp or Mastering Code (engraved/stamped): M2S1
Mould SID Code: IFPI 6100

But unfortunately (for me), this disc is recognized as CD-ROM XA, not CD-I.
*DiscInfo

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========== TOC ==========
      Data Track  1, LBA        0 -   235624, Length   235625
     Audio Track  2, LBA   235625 -   254482, Length    18858
     Audio Track  3, LBA   254483 -   275960, Length    21478
     Audio Track  4, LBA   275961 -   288037, Length    12077
     Audio Track  5, LBA   288038 -   303883, Length    15846
     Audio Track  6, LBA   303884 -   327542, Length    23659
                                              Total    327543
========== DiscInformation ==========
                      DiscStatus: Complete
               LastSessionStatus: Complete
                        Erasable: No
                FirstTrackNumber: 1
             NumberOfSessionsLsb: 1
        LastSessionFirstTrackLsb: 1
         LastSessionLastTrackLsb: 6
                       MrwStatus: None
                     MrwDirtyBit: No
                 UnrestrictedUse: No
                DiscBarCodeValid: No
                     DiscIDValid: No
                        DiscType: CD-ROM XA Disc
               LastSessionLeadIn: ff:ff:ff:ff
    LastPossibleLeadOutStartTime: ff:ff:ff:ff
                NumberOPCEntries: 0
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[0]: Check Drive + CD offset ==========
========== Offset (Drive offset referes to http://www.accuraterip.com) ==========
     Combined Offset(Byte)  -2228, (Samples)  -557
    -   Drive Offset(Byte)    120, (Samples)    30
    ----------------------------------------------
           CD Offset(Byte)  -2348, (Samples)  -587
    Overread sector: -1
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[2]: Check Drive + CD offset ==========
========== LBA[000000, 0000000]: Sub Channel ==========
      +0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B
    P 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Q 41 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 28 32
    R 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    S 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    T 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    U 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    V 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    W 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
========== Offset (Drive offset referes to http://www.accuraterip.com) ==========
     Combined Offset(Byte)  -2228, (Samples)  -557
    -   Drive Offset(Byte)    120, (Samples)    30
    ----------------------------------------------
           CD Offset(Byte)  -2348, (Samples)  -587
    Overread sector: -1
    SubChannel Offset: 0
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[8]: Check Drive + CD offset ==========
========== LBA[000000, 0000000]: Sub Channel ==========
      +0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B
    P 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Q 41 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 28 32
    R 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    S 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    T 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    U 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    V 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    W 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
========== Offset (Drive offset referes to http://www.accuraterip.com) ==========
     Combined Offset(Byte)  -2228, (Samples)  -557
    -   Drive Offset(Byte)    120, (Samples)    30
    ----------------------------------------------
           CD Offset(Byte)  -2348, (Samples)  -587
    Overread sector: -1
    SubChannel Offset: 0
========== CDTEXT ==========
    Nothing
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[8]: Track[01]: Check MCN and/or ISRC ==========
    Nothing
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[8]: Track[02]: Check MCN and/or ISRC ==========
    Nothing
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[8]: Track[03]: Check MCN and/or ISRC ==========
    Nothing
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[8]: Track[04]: Check MCN and/or ISRC ==========
    Nothing
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[8]: Track[05]: Check MCN and/or ISRC ==========
    Nothing
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[8]: Track[06]: Check MCN and/or ISRC ==========
    Nothing
========== FULL TOC ==========
    FirstCompleteSession: 1
     LastCompleteSession: 1
    Session 1, Ctl 4, Adr 1, Point 0xa0, FirstTrack  1, Format: CD-ROM-XA
    Session 1, Ctl 0, Adr 1, Point 0xa1,  LastTrack  6
    Session 1, Ctl 0, Adr 1, Point 0xa2,      Lead-out, AMSF 72:49:18 (LBA[327543, 0x4ff77])
    Session 1, Ctl 4, Adr 1, Point 0x01,      Track  1, AMSF 00:02:00 (LBA[000000, 0000000])
    Session 1, Ctl 0, Adr 1, Point 0x02,      Track  2, AMSF 52:23:50 (LBA[235625, 0x39869])
    Session 1, Ctl 0, Adr 1, Point 0x03,      Track  3, AMSF 56:35:08 (LBA[254483, 0x3e213])
    Session 1, Ctl 0, Adr 1, Point 0x04,      Track  4, AMSF 61:21:36 (LBA[275961, 0x435f9])
    Session 1, Ctl 0, Adr 1, Point 0x05,      Track  5, AMSF 64:02:38 (LBA[288038, 0x46526])
    Session 1, Ctl 0, Adr 1, Point 0x06,      Track  6, AMSF 67:33:59 (LBA[303884, 0x4a30c])
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[8]: Track[01]: Check CD + G ==========
========== LBA[000100, 0x00064]: Sub Channel ==========
      +0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B
    P 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Q 41 01 01 00 01 25 00 00 03 25 01 87
    R 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    S 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    T 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    U 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    V 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    W 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Nothing
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[8]: Track[02]: Check CD + G ==========
========== LBA[235725, 0x398cd]: Sub Channel ==========
      +0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B
    P 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Q 01 02 01 00 01 25 00 52 25 00 B6 F0
    R 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    S 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    T 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    U 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    V 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    W 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Nothing
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[8]: Track[03]: Check CD + G ==========
========== LBA[254583, 0x3e277]: Sub Channel ==========
      +0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B
    P 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Q 01 03 01 00 01 25 00 56 36 33 D1 03
    R 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    S 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    T 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    U 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    V 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    W 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Nothing
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[8]: Track[04]: Check CD + G ==========
========== LBA[276061, 0x4365d]: Sub Channel ==========
      +0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B
    P 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Q 01 04 01 00 01 25 00 61 22 61 95 9D
    R 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    S 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    T 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    U 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    V 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    W 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Nothing
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[8]: Track[05]: Check CD + G ==========
========== LBA[288138, 0x4658a]: Sub Channel ==========
      +0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B
    P 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Q 01 05 01 00 01 25 00 64 03 63 80 DB
    R 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    S 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    T 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    U 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    V 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    W 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Nothing
========== OpCode[0xd8]: SubCode[8]: Track[06]: Check CD + G ==========
========== LBA[303984, 0x4a370]: Sub Channel ==========
      +0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B
    P 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Q 01 06 01 00 01 25 00 67 35 09 96 10
    R 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    S 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    T 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    U 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    V 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    W 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Nothing
========== Check Pregap sync, msf, mode ==========
Set OpCode: 0xd8, SubCode: 8(Raw)
========== TOC with pregap ==========
    Track  1, Ctl 4, Mode 2, Index0   -150, Index1      0
    Track  2, Ctl 0, Mode 0, Index0 235402, Index1 235625
    Track  3, Ctl 0, Mode 0, Index0 254334, Index1 254483
    Track  4, Ctl 0, Mode 0, Index0 275812, Index1 275961
    Track  5, Ctl 0, Mode 0, Index0 287889, Index1 288038
    Track  6, Ctl 0, Mode 0, Index0 303735, Index1 303884
    Track  1 Data Sector:      0 - 235401 (0000000 - 0x39789)
========== Hash(Whole image) ==========
        <rom name="Cranberries, The - doors and windows (USA).scm" size="770381136" crc="ed319061" md5="4fb0c12b7195be9399f3b051a5bf6dee" sha1="c6f16d09b1b616260f0279b1108bc9a2afdbb7cf"/>
        <rom name="Cranberries, The - doors and windows (USA).img" size="770381136" crc="3abc365d" md5="72420bd489683083cd7a452b69a4f17f" sha1="16b153511eba91c8bca5e1c6ba36de746895ef3a"/>

*Cue

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FILE "Cranberries, The - doors and windows (USA) (Track 1).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 01 MODE2/2352
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Cranberries, The - doors and windows (USA) (Track 2).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:73
FILE "Cranberries, The - doors and windows (USA) (Track 3).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:74
FILE "Cranberries, The - doors and windows (USA) (Track 4).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:74
FILE "Cranberries, The - doors and windows (USA) (Track 5).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:74
FILE "Cranberries, The - doors and windows (USA) (Track 6).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:74

user7 wrote:Available here

OK, wait plz...

Jackal · Post by **Jackal** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:28 pm

Very strange difference. Same ringcode, 2 different dumps:

https://redump.info/disc/25734/ - logs from 2017: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ce4b73luc … fo.7z/file and 2019: http://www.mediafire.com/file/qonu94lfb … se.7z/file (.cue not included but matches db)

https://redump.info/disc/73543/ - new logs: http://www.mediafire.com/file/pkf96uk40 … en.7z/file + http://www.mediafire.com/file/1nw1uf9iy … ck.7z/file (slower speed and /s 2)

sarami · Post by **sarami** » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:49 am

Jackal wrote:Very strange difference. Same ringcode, 2 different dumps:

https://redump.info/disc/25734/ - logs from 2017: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ce4b73luc … fo.7z/file and 2019: http://www.mediafire.com/file/qonu94lfb … se.7z/file (.cue not included but matches db)

https://redump.info/disc/73543/ - new logs: http://www.mediafire.com/file/pkf96uk40 … en.7z/file + http://www.mediafire.com/file/1nw1uf9iy … ck.7z/file (slower speed and /s 2)

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LBA[021026, 0x05222]: P[00], Q[41010104402600044226d37d]{ Data,      Copy NG,                  Track[01], Idx[01], RMSF[04:40:26], AMSF[04:42:26]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[021027, 0x05223]: P[00], Q[4200000000000000002707ea]{ Data,      Copy NG,                  MediaCatalogNumber [0000000000000], AMSF[     :27]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[021028, 0x05224]: P[ff], Q[0102000001740004422895f9]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[02], Idx[00], RMSF[00:01:74], AMSF[04:42:28]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]

LBA 021027
This sector is data according to subQ ctl byte, but it's track 02 according to subP. Which is correct?
2017 and 2019 build only refer to subQ ctl. 2020 build refer to subP and subQ ctl (subP is given priority over subQ ctl in this case).

F1ReB4LL · Post by **F1ReB4LL** » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:04 am

Jackal wrote:Why change the behaviour after so many years? Now if people dump a disc, they will get different results as before.. this is very worrisome

The earlier dump is incorrect.

Jackal wrote:subQ seems more relevant to me than subP always.. and with this dump you get a 02:00 pregap with 1 scrambled data sector (very odd) when subP is given priority, or 01:74 with no scrambled data with subQ.

The very first sector of the gap is EAN, subQ doesn't tell which track it belongs to in this case. Previously, it was needed to analyze manually to decide which track it belongs to, now DIC additionally checks the P channel in this case.

Jackal wrote:I will discard the 2020 results in favor of the old dump.

Old dump is wrong, Nexy has added it without rechecking and other guys haven't checked its gaps as well.

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