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sarami · Post by **sarami** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:24 pm

F1ReB4LL wrote:Main track part is padded with 0x00, gaps are padded with 0xFF, nothing special. Gaps padding is shifted by 1 sector, btw, so, the first sector of the gap is padded with 0x00, the 2nd sector of the gap is padded with 0xFF, the first sector of the track after the gap is padded with 0xFF, the next sector is padded with 0x00.

Confirmed. And the last 149 sector of the last track is also padded with 0xff.
And is 'NiGHTS into Dreams... (Japan)' irregular? Some sectors of the former pregap are also padded with 0xff in the all track.

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LBA[098835, 0x18213]: P[00], Q[010301000943002159602402]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:43], AMSF[21:59:60]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098836, 0x18214]: P[00], Q[0103010009440021596153f7]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:44], AMSF[21:59:61]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098837, 0x18215]: P[ff], Q[01030100094500215962c9c5]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:45], AMSF[21:59:62]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098838, 0x18216]: P[ff], Q[010301000946002159633736]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:46], AMSF[21:59:63]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098839, 0x18217]: P[ff], Q[01030100094700215964ed80]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:47], AMSF[21:59:64]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098840, 0x18218]: P[ff], Q[010301000948002159659858]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:48], AMSF[21:59:65]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098841, 0x18219]: P[ff], Q[01030100094900215966026a]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:49], AMSF[21:59:66]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098842, 0x1821a]: P[ff], Q[01030100095000215967be6d]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:50], AMSF[21:59:67]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098843, 0x1821b]: P[ff], Q[01030100095100215968e5d3]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:51], AMSF[21:59:68]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098844, 0x1821c]: P[ff], Q[010301000952002159691b20]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:52], AMSF[21:59:69]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098845, 0x1821d]: P[ff], Q[010301000953002159703269]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:53], AMSF[21:59:70]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098846, 0x1821e]: P[ff], Q[01030100095400215971459c]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:54], AMSF[21:59:71]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098847, 0x1821f]: P[ff], Q[01030100095500215972dfae]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:55], AMSF[21:59:72]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098848, 0x18220]: P[ff], Q[01030100095600215973215d]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:56], AMSF[21:59:73]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098849, 0x18221]: P[ff], Q[01030100095700215974fbeb]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:57], AMSF[21:59:74]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098850, 0x18222]: P[ff], Q[010301000958002200004d76]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:58], AMSF[22:00:00]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098851, 0x18223]: P[ff], Q[01030100095900220001f706]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:59], AMSF[22:00:01]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098852, 0x18224]: P[ff], Q[0103010009600022000263f7]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:60], AMSF[22:00:02]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098853, 0x18225]: P[ff], Q[01030100096100220003d987]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:61], AMSF[22:00:03]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098854, 0x18226]: P[ff], Q[0103010009620022000447b2]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:62], AMSF[22:00:04]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098855, 0x18227]: P[ff], Q[01030100096300220005fdc2]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:63], AMSF[22:00:05]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098856, 0x18228]: P[ff], Q[01030100096400220006aa75]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:64], AMSF[22:00:06]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098857, 0x18229]: P[ff], Q[010301000965002200071005]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:65], AMSF[22:00:07]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098858, 0x1822a]: P[ff], Q[010301000966002200080f38]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:66], AMSF[22:00:08]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098859, 0x1822b]: P[ff], Q[01030100096700220009b548]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:67], AMSF[22:00:09]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098860, 0x1822c]: P[ff], Q[0103010009680022001053a9]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:68], AMSF[22:00:10]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098861, 0x1822d]: P[ff], Q[01030100096900220011e9d9]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:69], AMSF[22:00:11]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098862, 0x1822e]: P[ff], Q[01030100097000220012759c]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:70], AMSF[22:00:12]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098863, 0x1822f]: P[ff], Q[01030100097100220013cfec]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:71], AMSF[22:00:13]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098864, 0x18230]: P[ff], Q[0103010009720022001451d9]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:72], AMSF[22:00:14]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098865, 0x18231]: P[ff], Q[01030100097300220015eba9]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:73], AMSF[22:00:15]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098866, 0x18232]: P[ff], Q[01030100097400220016bc1e]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:09:74], AMSF[22:00:16]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098867, 0x18233]: P[ff], Q[010301001000002200176ad9]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:10:00], AMSF[22:00:17]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098868, 0x18234]: P[ff], Q[010301001001002200183167]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:10:01], AMSF[22:00:18]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098869, 0x18235]: P[ff], Q[01030100100200220019cf94]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:10:02], AMSF[22:00:19]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098870, 0x18236]: P[ff], Q[020000000000000000200517]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, MediaCatalogNumber [0000000000000], AMSF[     :20]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098871, 0x18237]: P[ff], Q[01030100100400220021b54a]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:10:04], AMSF[22:00:21]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098872, 0x18238]: P[ff], Q[010301001005002200222f78]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[03], Idx[01], RMSF[00:10:05], AMSF[22:00:22]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098873, 0x18239]: P[ff], Q[010400000173002200234606]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[04], Idx[00], RMSF[00:01:73], AMSF[22:00:23]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[098874, 0x1823a]: P[ff], Q[010400000172002200249cb0]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[04], Idx[00], RMSF[00:01:72], AMSF[22:00:24]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
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F1ReB4LL wrote:Various Saturn titles come to mind.

e.g. Puyo Puyo Sun? That is, "The first sector of the 2nd track's pregap is a scrambled data sector."?

F1ReB4LL · Post by **F1ReB4LL** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:54 am

sarami wrote:And is 'NiGHTS into Dreams... (Japan)' irregular? Some sectors of the former pregap are also padded with 0xff in the all track.

Probably. According to the books, "During master disc encoding, the P code is generated automatically from the Q code", so, any P-channel vs Q-channel mismatchings should be some kind of mastering error.
And, as I've already said, according to the Redbook, "The encoding of channel P is delayed by one subcoding block with respect to the encoding of channel Q" (hence the 1-sector shift).

sarami wrote:
F1ReB4LL wrote:Various Saturn titles come to mind.
e.g. Puyo Puyo Sun? That is, "The first sector of the 2nd track's pregap is a scrambled data sector."?

Many different ones. The ones with the scrambled sector, the ones with xx:01:74 gaps (Q-channel gaps are 149 sectors, P-channel gaps are often 186 sectors on those), the ones with 'serpentine' pregaps (https://redump.info/disc/1874/ is the example, if I remember correctly) and others.

sarami · Post by **sarami** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:27 am

I understood a little.

F1ReB4LL wrote:the ones with xx:01:74 gaps (Q-channel gaps are 149 sectors, P-channel gaps are often 186 sectors on those)

Surely, P-channel gaps of NiGHTS is 186.

F1ReB4LL · Post by **F1ReB4LL** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:02 pm

sarami wrote:Confirmed. And the last 149 sector of the last track is also padded with 0xff.

Yes, that is correct.

ECMA-130 wrote:The p-channel of the last Information Track in the User Data area shall end with a Flag of 2 s to 3 s (i.e. 150 to
225 Sections). Its end shall indicate the beginning of the Lead-out Track. In this track the bits of the p-channel are
set to ZERO during 2 s to 3 s."

jhmiller · Post by **jhmiller** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:43 pm

Hi: I cannot dump the Dreamcast games "Death Crimson OX (Japan)" and "Puzzle Bobble 4 (Japan)".
I have 2 disc of each and with dcdumper the dumps fail in the same site.
At the beginning I think that the disc are broken, but when purchase the second disc and fail in the same site I guess that is a mastering error.

Can you try to dump with DIC any of the 2 games to see if you find something weird?

I would try it myself, but the DIC does not work with any of my units to dump GD-Roms.

sarami · Post by **sarami** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:36 am

jhmiller wrote:Can you try to dump with DIC any of the 2 games to see if you find something weird?

I'll buy these if these are sold in Nearby shop. (Because these aren't so cheap price...)

jhmiller wrote:I have 2 disc of each and with dcdumper the dumps fail in the same site.

Does dcdumper show the error messages?

jhmiller · Post by **jhmiller** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:03 pm

sarami wrote:Does dcdumper show the error messages?

No. dcdumper only show the error "Non-Match" in the section.
And after the retries, the program ends.
It does not give an error.
The program can read the section but the CRC does not match the previous reading.

Log of the PB4:

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 DCdumper.exe dcdumper.exe f -c446261 -df -p4 

Handle acquired.
Load disc: Done.
Sector map created.

..................:::::::::::::::: PASS 1 ::::::::::::::::..................
Reading section 1: 044990-055278 - Initial dump.
Reading section 2: 055279-065567 - Initial dump.
Reading section 3: 065568-075856 - Initial dump.
Reading section 4: 075857-086145 - Initial dump.
Reading section 5: 086146-096434 - Initial dump.
Reading section 6: 096435-106723 - Initial dump.
Reading section 7: 106724-117012 - Initial dump.
Reading section 8: 117013-127301 - Initial dump.
Reading section 9: 127302-137590 - Initial dump.
Reading section 10: 137591-147879 - Initial dump.
Reading section 11: 147880-158168 - Initial dump.
Reading section 12: 158169-168457 - Initial dump.
Reading section 13: 168458-178746 - Initial dump.
Reading section 14: 178747-189035 - Initial dump.
Reading section 15: 189036-199324 - Initial dump.
Reading section 16: 199325-209613 - Initial dump.
Reading section 17: 209614-219902 - Initial dump.
Reading section 18: 219903-230191 - Initial dump.
Reading section 19: 230192-240480 - Initial dump.
Reading section 20: 240481-250769 - Initial dump.
Reading section 21: 250770-261058 - Initial dump.
Reading section 22: 261059-271347 - Initial dump.
Reading section 23: 271348-281636 - Initial dump.
Reading section 24: 281637-291925 - Initial dump.
Reading section 25: 291926-302214 - Initial dump.
Reading section 26: 302215-312503 - Initial dump.
Reading section 27: 312504-322792 - Initial dump.
Reading section 28: 322793-333081 - Initial dump.
Reading section 29: 333082-343370 - Initial dump.
Reading section 30: 343371-353659 - Initial dump.
Reading section 31: 353660-363948 - Initial dump.
Reading section 32: 363949-374237 - Initial dump.
Reading section 33: 374238-384526 - Initial dump.
Reading section 34: 384527-394815 - Initial dump.
Reading section 35: 394816-405104 - Initial dump.
Reading section 36: 405105-415393 - Initial dump.
Reading section 37: 415394-425682 - Initial dump.
Reading section 38: 425683-435971 - Initial dump.
Reading section 39: 435972-446260 - Initial dump.
Reading section 40: 446261-549150 - Initial dump.

..................:::::::::::::::: PASS 2 ::::::::::::::::..................
Reading section 1: 044990-055278 - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Reading section 2: 055279-065567 - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Fake read. Retry - MATCH: 0278c134f97f19e6f6bc8c390dc7a354
Reading section 3: 065568-075856 - MATCH: 64609ff036ed439e481ab12b3a99ea98
Reading section 4: 075857-086145 - Non-Match.
Reading section 5: 086146-096434 - MATCH: ab80d76c9a189a32664ebfdcdc424664
Reading section 6: 096435-106723 - Non-Match.
Reading section 7: 106724-117012 - MATCH: ba0310c899c44eb88dd7a6167c4d5dc3
Reading section 8: 117013-127301 - Non-Match.
Reading section 9: 127302-137590 - MATCH: 27527a1b9fc83c1a493901220806c7ad
Reading section 10: 137591-147879 - MATCH: 949aa40a59e44f360f52e22bfc2c89b1
Reading section 11: 147880-158168 - MATCH: b4d91a7b835c619f9195dd9191d4054e
Reading section 12: 158169-168457 - MATCH: 4e990abe072fbe37249d5a4fae946e4b
Reading section 13: 168458-178746 - MATCH: 734d5fbd9a058f981c4fd6cfd50ac0ee
Reading section 14: 178747-189035 - MATCH: 019dbd97d55c4d5c13eb40e9ed54250b
Reading section 15: 189036-199324 - MATCH: 596c2268f6dd2195e6c5bd4bf243848d
Reading section 16: 199325-209613 - MATCH: f021c0b016e79511850c52adcb6bae2e
Reading section 17: 209614-219902 - MATCH: 39e829a6a7e71c0844b29bcf8d7cf79f
Reading section 18: 219903-230191 - MATCH: 1db3c0f5ef7b5888e16085bce6fb3d36
Reading section 19: 230192-240480 - MATCH: a7e8b07c58566248c3c8f1eea2fd8348
Reading section 20: 240481-250769 - MATCH: 05cf4016a9c7f13ed12de3c3ac447810
Reading section 21: 250770-261058 - MATCH: f5433c95724932c6d65805ef57b5be9d
Reading section 22: 261059-271347 - MATCH: 87d01b53121a86f480d309ca8a66f2d5
Reading section 23: 271348-281636 - MATCH: 436934278f427d968022568c770f33a6
Reading section 24: 281637-291925 - MATCH: 575bda78d7689624d401ab53633c75df
Reading section 25: 291926-302214 - MATCH: 6e3c2d772d560328bdefaa8c1dfd242b
Reading section 26: 302215-312503 - MATCH: a212c8d8adc030f96bb9f00c969b2f6c
Reading section 27: 312504-322792 - MATCH: 6ebd5e2d004ebc9adc63ebde569e5085
Reading section 28: 322793-333081 - MATCH: 3f0d73dffdd3d3e63e47186a56483088
Reading section 29: 333082-343370 - MATCH: 86ac90e1460a1987ee5c22c1a0b3760b
Reading section 30: 343371-353659 - MATCH: 4ba7ba9d624f54c5fd5469495e23c8f1
Reading section 31: 353660-363948 - MATCH: d21acd03ec78b296a4fc47e82ba1796c
Reading section 32: 363949-374237 - MATCH: 551ac778b6223f8993ee3964baa6c765
Reading section 33: 374238-384526 - MATCH: dca70c46ac71ea05158608f2ea6ff9ee
Reading section 34: 384527-394815 - MATCH: ded9065aa4985309e9a78a37ad10f042
Reading section 35: 394816-405104 - Non-Match.
Reading section 36: 405105-415393 - MATCH: 8523340760e2cefc3014cff80c53bde1
Reading section 37: 415394-425682 - MATCH: 1e558d6e4c4abf9514035f4323c8596a
Reading section 38: 425683-435971 - MATCH: 222ac8dad3fbe34a443145d888048ae0
Reading section 39: 435972-446260 - MATCH: 2d3664ee4f6825cdd7152c5677947384
Reading section 40: 446261-549150 - MATCH: 168049ece4e03f8aef8455cd5639e321

..................:::::::::::::::: PASS 3 ::::::::::::::::..................
Reading section 1: 044990-055278 - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Fake read. Retry - Non-Match.
Reading section 4: 075857-086145 - Non-Match.
Reading section 6: 096435-106723 - MATCH: 24f972792a9be6a9f2281c3ea5e62b95
Reading section 8: 117013-127301 - MATCH: 7383f215d15cb11c7740a651002a9bc0
Reading section 35: 394816-405104 - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Fake read. Retry - Non-Match.

..................:::::::::::::::: PASS 4 ::::::::::::::::..................
Reading section 1: 044990-055278 - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Reading section 4: 075857-086145 - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Fake read. Retry - MATCH: 855054d3fadb33728a41d8c944d85188
Reading section 35: 394816-405104 - Non-Match.
Sector read error between sectors 44990 and 55278 inclusive.
Sector read error between sectors 394816 and 405104 inclusive.
Clean the disc and try again.
---

---
 DCdumper.exe dcdumper.exe f -c446261 -df -p4 

Handle acquired.
Load disc: Done.
Sector map created.

..................:::::::::::::::: PASS 1 ::::::::::::::::..................
Reading section 1: 044990-055278 - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Fake read. Retry - MATCH: 40f0ba8ba8d2565a25b5bbdee4a80b18
Reading section 35: 394816-405104 - Non-Match.

..................:::::::::::::::: PASS 2 ::::::::::::::::..................
Reading section 35: 394816-405104 - read error.
Fake read. Retry - read error.
Fake read. Retry - Non-Match.

..................:::::::::::::::: PASS 3 ::::::::::::::::..................
Reading section 35: 394816-405104 - Non-Match.

..................:::::::::::::::: PASS 4 ::::::::::::::::..................
Reading section 35: 394816-405104 - Non-Match.
Sector read error between sectors 394816 and 405104 inclusive.
Clean the disc and try again.
---

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sarami · Post by **sarami** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:46 pm

Does you always use '-p4'?

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-p#     - Passes: Set maximum number of passes
          Min: 2  Max: 100  Default: 10

Did you use '-p5', '-p6' ... '-p100'?
And did you use '-t' and/or '-i'? (I don't know what this option means.)
Or did you change the value of '-c'?

jhmiller · Post by **jhmiller** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:26 am

sarami wrote:Does you always use '-p4'?
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-p#     - Passes: Set maximum number of passes
          Min: 2  Max: 100  Default: 10
Did you use '-p5', '-p6' ... '-p100'?
And did you use '-t' and/or '-i'? (I don't know what this option means.)
Or did you change the value of '-c'?

I try uncont times and always get the error in the section 35.
And with the other disc, the same. I get the error in the same section 35.
Because of this, I thought it was a mastering error, and I want you to try with DIC.
Yesterday I bought a TS-H352C and TS-H192C to test it myself.

xTMODx · Post by **xTMODx** » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:41 am

sarami can you please check this errors

logs http://www37.zippyshare.com/v/dEtaiYgM/file.html

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