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GC version numbers

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:55 pm
by doofus
I'm redumping a load of PAL GC games that are already in the database and either the entry for Donkey Konga is spectacularly wrong (unlikely) or I have a different version of the game.

The thing is, the old trick of looking at offset 0x07 to find the version number gives me v1.00 - in fact I have the same first 0x2F bytes as the entry in the database. Even the serial on the disc is the same, the ring is different though. Also notice the lack of Dutch language in my dump (I've tested it and selecting Dutch gives me English).

So, is there a more accurate method for getting the version number of a GC/Wii game? Is this just a non-Dutch version?

Here's the dump info (differences from the DB entry are in red):
Region: Europe
Languages: En,Fr,De,Es,It
Serial: DL-DOL-GKGP-EUR
Ring: IFPI LQ11 104H0303 DOL-GKGP-0-00 JPN S0
Barcode: 045496961299 (UK)
Version 1.00
Edition: Original
Size: 1459978240
CRC-32: 16342fb3
MD5: 7d302c00610d347b56cd4ac7d0a03c48
SHA-1: bf94c187ad0a57d4339885e218a302365d4a453a
ed2k: af9ee2c2431991ae8fb69e007a3ad49e
DOL MD5: 2c90dd01cfe2a68d3dd227afd63b6acd

Re: GC version numbers

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:53 pm
by iR0b0t
hmm, for version: the 7th byte in the header or check the ring for it -> GKGP-0-00, by the way the first -0 is disc number (0=1, 1=2, ...)

Re: GC version numbers

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:18 pm
by RetroGamer
There are a lot of GC dumps with wrong langauges, here's an example: https://redump.info/disc/1419/

Rocknroms, since you are making or updating the GC dumping guide, don't forget to mention that the dumper should check the languages by changing the bios to the various languages.

Re: GC version numbers

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:16 am
by doofus
Interesting, I suppose only one post makes that dump more suspicious. Has anyone got the scene release checksums? My sources tell me that it's called Donkey_Konga_PAL_NGC-MRN - I'd guess the scene checksums will match one of our dumps.

Re: GC version numbers

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:57 am
by Haldrie
I would think the IFPI part of the ring would at least be the same. Often times those letters are smaller then the rest of the text but they are found on nearly all pressed discs. You could always try and wipe your image to see if it matches and if it does then that other person's dump needs to go...or just be replaced with your dump.

Re: GC version numbers

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:27 pm
by Rocknroms
I was thinking that entry was bad since the day it was added. Simply a suspect I have, probably dumped with bad tools.

Re: GC version numbers

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:54 pm
by doofus
I was thinking maybe venyxal added a scrubbed version but the dol MD5 would be the same then. I'm not entirely convinced this isn't some other version of the game with Dutch language included but I wouldn't expect 2 different Euro versions from Nintendo.

Re: GC version numbers

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:13 am
by Haldrie
The DOL MD5 would be the same unless he used that tool that lets you browse the files in the image (I forgot what the name of it was) since that tool gives an incorrect checksum for the DOL.

Re: GC version numbers

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:01 pm
by Pikmin
RetroGamer wrote:Rocknroms, since you are making or updating the GC dumping guide, don't forget to mention that the dumper should check the languages by changing the bios to the various languages.
This actually answers my question, Thanks
So, the only way to be sure is to actually go the long way and change the language in bios...
Was hoping i could use Gamecube Explorer and get the info by changing the banner language but i guess since no one mentioned anything, GCE mightn't be reliable...

Re: GC version numbers

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:24 am
by Sotho Tal Ker
If the game works in Dolphin it is faster to change the language in the emulator than on the real console. Image

Btw, the same applies to PS2 games aswell, there are many that have set english only but which are actually multi language Image