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Audio CD/DVD Video naming
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:55 am
by ghost
https://redump.info/disc/14889/
Baldur's Gate - The Original Saga (World) (Disc 4) (Soundtrack - Music by Michael Hoenig) ([PC] Baldur's Gate - The Original Saga Bundle)
Does this name needs to big this huge? 137 characters. I get sql error in romcenter, clrmamepro wants to delete all the files, sometimes windows doesn't copy them if they exceed 255 characters. It is not convenient. I don't see this name in this cd scan
https://www.mobygames.com/game/baldurs- … rId,17599/
Re: Audio CD/DVD Video naming
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:37 am
by Jackal
https://redump.info/list/miss/Jackal/audio-cd/
Suchie-Pai Mecha Genteiban - Hatsubai 5 Shuunen Toku Package (Japan) (Mecha Omake CD) (Bundled with [SS] Idol Janshi Suchie-Pai Mecha Genteiban - Hatsubai 5 Shuunen Toku Package)
Hoshi no Kirby - 20 Shuunen Memorial Soundtrack ~ Kirby's Dream Collection - Special Edition (USA, Japan) (Compilation Soundtrack) ([Wii] Hoshi no Kirby ~ Kirby's Dream Collection Bundle)
Atelier Elie - Elie no Atelier - Salburg no Renkinjutsushi 2 (Japan) (Opening Drama CD) (Bundled with [PSX] Atelier Elie - Elie no Atelier - Salburg no Renkinjutsushi 2)
Thank F1ReB4LL for making up these filenames. All the stuff in the Version (datfile) field has no real purpose imo. The information about what it came bundled with should go in comments or edition field instead of the filename.
Re: Audio CD/DVD Video naming
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:04 am
by Jackal
Just an example of how wrong the naming is:
F1ReB4LL filename (completely ignoring the disc title):
World Soccer Winning Eleven 6 + World Soccer Winning Eleven 2002 (Japan) (Demo of [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 6 + [PSX] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2002)
Proper filename (IMO):
World Soccer Winning Eleven 6 + World Soccer Winning Eleven 2002 (Japan) (Promotion DVD)
or alternatively (but as argued before, I think it's better to put it in Disc Title and leave only game titles in Title field):
World Soccer Winning Eleven 6 + World Soccer Winning Eleven 2002 - Promotion DVD (Japan)
I'm not gonna touch any other Audio-CD's. It's not my mess.
Re: Audio CD/DVD Video naming
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:33 pm
by F1ReB4LL
Jackal wrote:Proper filename (IMO):
World Soccer Winning Eleven 6 + World Soccer Winning Eleven 2002 (Japan) (Promotion DVD)
or alternatively (but as argued before, I think it's better to put it in Disc Title and leave only game titles in Title field):
World Soccer Winning Eleven 6 + World Soccer Winning Eleven 2002 - Promotion DVD (Japan)
Neither: the "Promotion DVD" is an edition variant of "Demo".
Jackal wrote:The information about what it came bundled with should go in comments or edition field instead of the filename.
Why do you remove that information from the Edition field, if so?
ghost wrote:It is not convenient. I don't see this name in this cd scan
What exactly don't you see on the CD scan? The only doubtful parts there are "World" (since it's the USA release, according to the barcode) and "Disc 4" (since there's no number on it, so it should be "Baldur's Gate - The Original Saga (World) (Soundtrack - Music by Michael Hoenig)"). Regarding the next tag, this was already discussed years ago, the CDDA, VCD and DVDV/BDV dumps should be somehow tagged to indicate the system they represent. Since Dremora didn't like the idea to add the bonus discs into the same dats with their 'parent' games, we need to tag them properly, so, people, who only interested in PSX-related audio discs (for example) could easily sort out the needed files and ignore the rest.
Ideally, it should contain the game title, but at the very least, it should contain the system name or acronym and something to understand the reason of its inclusion into the dat. Something like "Bundled with PSX Game", "Bundled with Magazine", "Promo for PSX game", "Related to PSX game" (also, do these variants need the articles? since the "PSX game" technically means many copies) or something similar. Another possible variant is to put some tag before the title, something like "[PC] Baldur's Gate - The Original Saga (World) (Soundtrack - Music by Michael Hoenig)". I'm all ears to your ideas.
Re: Audio CD/DVD Video naming
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:44 pm
by user7
F1ReB4LL wrote:Ideally, it should contain the game title, but at the very least, it should contain the system name or acronym and something to understand the reason of its inclusion into the dat.
Why? That can be noted in the entry's Comments.
Re: Audio CD/DVD Video naming
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:54 pm
by F1ReB4LL
user7 wrote:Why? That can be noted in the entry's Comments.
"so, people, who only interested in PSX-related audio discs (for example) could easily sort out the needed files and ignore the rest".
These are the 'special' systems and their sections aren't intended to store all the releases for them, so they need to follow the special rules. And don't forget that the majority of people won't be able to see these entries and their comments, so the tags _must_ be in the dats.
Re: Audio CD/DVD Video naming
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:11 pm
by user7
So what happens if a game is released on multiple systems, but the disc's release was just accompanied by a certain system?
I'd like to voice my support for Details not being included or sorted in a file level. It looks sloppy as hell and not part of the item's official title.
Re: Audio CD/DVD Video naming
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:35 pm
by F1ReB4LL
So what happens if a game is released on multiple systems, but the disc's release was just accompanied by a certain system?
Only that certain system should be mentioned, then, if it's somehow tied to only one of the ports.
It looks sloppy as hell and not part of the item's official title.
The region tags, various "(Alt)" and similar tags aren't the parts of the title as well, it's not an argument. The title part ends before the region tag.
Re: Audio CD/DVD Video naming
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:19 pm
by Jackal
Nobody likes your naming scheme @F1ReB4LL .. The first posts and examples were clear. You are always criticizing me for messing up things, but this is where you are messing up. Adding fictional titles and parts and creating huge and ugly filenames that don't comply with No-Intro standards.
Re: Audio CD/DVD Video naming
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:21 pm
by user7
I agree with Jackal, this is the kind of annoying thing he would have pulled.
Did iRobot have any say in this?