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Re: DiscImageCreator

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:24 am
by jhmiller
With the new version is the same: Many differences.
I've upload the files generated by dic of the 2 dumps of Puyo Puyo, with and without the bin-scm2:

T-6601M Rip 1.zip (37MB)
T-6601M Rip 1 - BIN-SCM2.zip (259MB)

T-6601M Rip 2.zip (37MB)
T-6601M Rip 2 BIN-SCM2.zip (235MB)

Re: DiscImageCreator

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:17 am
by sarami
To solve this problem, needs to read the disc twice at least and checks the hash as dcdumper does because the drive can't check the C2 error. dic hasn't supported this (read and check) yet.

By the way, does your SH-D162C work using dic? and
jhmiller wrote:I can't use DIC with my Plextor 708
Could you try /be option in your Plextor 708?

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        /be     Use 0xbe as ReadCD command forcibly (for data disc)
                        str      raw: sub channel mode is raw (default)
                                pack: sub channel mode is pack
This option is used like this.

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DiscImageCreator.exe gd g QUIZ.bin 8 /c2 /be

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DiscImageCreator.exe gd g QUIZ.bin 8 /c2 /be pack
Test version
http://www.mediafire.com/file/eq80y20l9 … or_test.7z

Re: DiscImageCreator

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:15 pm
by jhmiller
sarami wrote:To solve this problem, needs to read the disc twice at least and checks the hash as dcdumper does because the drive can't check the C2 error. dic hasn't supported this (read and check) yet.

By the way, does your SH-D162C work using dic? and
jhmiller wrote:I can't use DIC with my Plextor 708
Could you try /be option in your Plextor 708?
DIC can't read from my Plextor. It does not matter what option use.
/be option:

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D:\Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC>DiscImageCreator.exe gd g Puyo.bin 8 /c2 /be
OS
        Windows 7 Professional Service Pack 1 64bit
AppVersion
        x86, AnsiBuild, Apr  8 2017 22:18:38
/c2 val1 is omitted. set [1024]
/c2 val2 is omitted. set [4096]
/c2 val3 is omitted. set [4]
submode of /be is omitted. set [raw]
CurrentDirectory
        D:\Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC
WorkingPath
         Argument: Puyo.bin
         FullPath: D:\Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC\Puyo
            Drive: D:
        Directory: \Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC\
         Filename: Puyo
        Extension: .bin
Start time: 2017-04-08(Sat) 19:23:30
Set the drive speed: 1411KB/sec
Allocating packed memory for C2 errors: 8192
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 0]
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 1]
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 2]
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 4]
LBA[045000, 0x0afc8]: [F:ExecSearchingOffset][L:65]
        OperationCode: 0xbe
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 05-24-00 = ILLEGAL_REQUEST - INVALID FIELD IN CDB
lpCmd: be, 04, 00, 00, af, c8, 00, 00, 01, fc, 00, 00
dwBufSize: 2648
Couldn't read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 2, SubCh: 0]
LBA[045000, 0x0afc8]: [F:ExecSearchingOffset][L:65]
        OperationCode: 0xbe
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 05-24-00 = ILLEGAL_REQUEST - INVALID FIELD IN CDB
lpCmd: be, 04, 00, 00, af, c8, 00, 00, 01, fc, 01, 00
dwBufSize: 2744
Couldn't read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 2, SubCh: 1]
LBA[045000, 0x0afc8]: [F:ExecSearchingOffset][L:65]
        OperationCode: 0xbe
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 05-24-00 = ILLEGAL_REQUEST - INVALID FIELD IN CDB
lpCmd: be, 04, 00, 00, af, c8, 00, 00, 01, fc, 02, 00
dwBufSize: 2664
Couldn't read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 2, SubCh: 2]
LBA[045000, 0x0afc8]: [F:ExecSearchingOffset][L:65]
        OperationCode: 0xbe
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 05-24-00 = ILLEGAL_REQUEST - INVALID FIELD IN CDB
lpCmd: be, 04, 00, 00, af, c8, 00, 00, 01, fc, 04, 00
dwBufSize: 2744
Couldn't read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 2, SubCh: 4]
Freeing allocated memory for C2 errors: 8192
End time: 2017-04-08(Sat) 19:27:07
/be pack option:

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D:\Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC>DiscImageCreator.exe gd g Puyo.bin 8 /c2 /be pack
OS
        Windows 7 Professional Service Pack 1 64bit
AppVersion
        x86, AnsiBuild, Apr  8 2017 22:18:38
/c2 val1 is omitted. set [1024]
/c2 val2 is omitted. set [4096]
/c2 val3 is omitted. set [4]
CurrentDirectory
        D:\Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC
WorkingPath
         Argument: Puyo.bin
         FullPath: D:\Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC\Puyo
            Drive: D:
        Directory: \Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC\
         Filename: Puyo
        Extension: .bin
Start time: 2017-04-08(Sat) 19:38:40
Set the drive speed: 1411KB/sec
Allocating packed memory for C2 errors: 8192
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 0]
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 1]
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 2]
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 4]
LBA[045000, 0x0afc8]: [F:ExecSearchingOffset][L:65]
        OperationCode: 0xbe
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 05-24-00 = ILLEGAL_REQUEST - INVALID FIELD IN CDB
lpCmd: be, 04, 00, 00, af, c8, 00, 00, 01, fc, 00, 00
dwBufSize: 2648
Couldn't read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 2, SubCh: 0]
LBA[045000, 0x0afc8]: [F:ExecSearchingOffset][L:65]
        OperationCode: 0xbe
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 05-24-00 = ILLEGAL_REQUEST - INVALID FIELD IN CDB
lpCmd: be, 04, 00, 00, af, c8, 00, 00, 01, fc, 01, 00
dwBufSize: 2744
Couldn't read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 2, SubCh: 1]
LBA[045000, 0x0afc8]: [F:ExecSearchingOffset][L:65]
        OperationCode: 0xbe
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 05-24-00 = ILLEGAL_REQUEST - INVALID FIELD IN CDB
lpCmd: be, 04, 00, 00, af, c8, 00, 00, 01, fc, 02, 00
dwBufSize: 2664
Couldn't read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 2, SubCh: 2]
LBA[045000, 0x0afc8]: [F:ExecSearchingOffset][L:65]
        OperationCode: 0xbe
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 05-24-00 = ILLEGAL_REQUEST - INVALID FIELD IN CDB
lpCmd: be, 04, 00, 00, af, c8, 00, 00, 01, fc, 04, 00
dwBufSize: 2744
Couldn't read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 2, SubCh: 4]
Freeing allocated memory for C2 errors: 8192
End time: 2017-04-08(Sat) 19:42:18

Re: DiscImageCreator

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:11 am
by sarami
jhmiller wrote:DIC can't read from my Plextor. It does not matter what option use.
Sorry, some fixed. Plz try again.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/eq80y20l9 … or_test.7z

Re: DiscImageCreator

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:41 am
by jhmiller
Well, no error, but not read from the Plextor:

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D:\Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC>DiscImageCreator.exe gd g Puyo94.bin 8 /c2 /be
OS
        Windows 7 Professional Service Pack 1 64bit
AppVersion
        x86, AnsiBuild, Apr  9 2017 22:53:28
/c2 val1 is omitted. set [1024]
/c2 val2 is omitted. set [4096]
/c2 val3 is omitted. set [4]
submode of /be is omitted. set [raw]
CurrentDirectory
        D:\Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC
WorkingPath
         Argument: Puyo94.bin
         FullPath: D:\Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC\Puyo94
            Drive: D:
        Directory: \Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC\
         Filename: Puyo94
        Extension: .bin
Start time: 2017-04-09(Sun) 16:21:31
Set the drive speed: 1411KB/sec
Allocating packed memory for C2 errors: 8192
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 0]
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 1]
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 2]
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 4]
Checking SubQ adr (Track)  1/ 1
Checking SubRtoW (Track)  1/ 1
No GD-ROM data
Freeing allocated memory for C2 errors: 8192
End time: 2017-04-09(Sun) 16:25:36

D:\Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC>DiscImageCreator.exe gd g Puyo94.bin 8 /c2 /be pack
OS
        Windows 7 Professional Service Pack 1 64bit
AppVersion
        x86, AnsiBuild, Apr  9 2017 22:53:28
/c2 val1 is omitted. set [1024]
/c2 val2 is omitted. set [4096]
/c2 val3 is omitted. set [4]
CurrentDirectory
        D:\Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC
WorkingPath
         Argument: Puyo94.bin
         FullPath: D:\Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC\Puyo94
            Drive: D:
        Directory: \Sistemas\Dreamcast\DIC\
         Filename: Puyo94
        Extension: .bin
Start time: 2017-04-09(Sun) 16:26:54
Set the drive speed: 1411KB/sec
Allocating packed memory for C2 errors: 8192
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 0]
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 1]
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 2]
This drive can read a data sector at scrambled mode [Opcode: 0xbe, C2flag: 1, SubCh: 4]
Checking SubQ adr (Track)  1/ 1
Checking SubRtoW (Track)  1/ 1
No GD-ROM data
Freeing allocated memory for C2 errors: 8192
End time: 2017-04-09(Sun) 16:31:01

Re: DiscImageCreator

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:39 pm
by sarami
Does DCDumper really support your plextor PX-708?

Re: DiscImageCreator

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:15 am
by jhmiller
sarami wrote:Does DCDumper really support your plextor PX-708?
Nop, with dcdumper I use SH-D162C.

I bought the Plextor for used with DIC.
When I saw that it did not work, I change to the dcdumper method and bought the SH-D162C.
After a time, I bought the TS-H353A and tried again with DIC and again don't work.

The only method that work for my now is:
LDA: DIC and plextor
HDA: dcdumper and SH-D162C

Re: DiscImageCreator

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:21 am
by F1ReB4LL
PX-708A should work, according to Enker - /viewtopic.php?p=3556#p3556
tossEAC also uses some Plextor for dumping - /viewtopic.php?p=36648#p36648

Re: DiscImageCreator

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:48 am
by jhmiller
F1ReB4LL wrote:PX-708A should work, according to Enker - /viewtopic.php?p=3556#p3556
tossEAC also uses some Plextor for dumping - /viewtopic.php?p=36648#p36648
Maybe in 2012 Enker had a PC with IDE connection. I am using usb adapters.

If with DIC we can do that the Plextor or any other of my units work well, perfect, I will continue doing the tests that sarami needs.
But I will not buy another adapter or unit to test, as long as the dcdumper method works well.
If my Plextor not work with DIC, no problem, always I can do the other method.

Re: DiscImageCreator

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:34 pm
by sarami
jhmiller wrote:Nop, with dcdumper I use SH-D162C.
I'd thought dcdumper has supported PX-708... I want to know your drive more. If you can, please try the following.
1. cdrwin and PX-708
2. dcdumper and TS-H353A (If you get the corrupt data, your TS-H353A may be dying...)
3. dic and SH-D162C (I believe this drive works with dic.)
F1ReB4LL wrote:PX-708A should work, according to Enker - /viewtopic.php?p=3556#p3556
tossEAC also uses some Plextor for dumping - /viewtopic.php?p=36648#p36648
/viewtopic.php?p=3524#p3524
I'm thinking this is the list that is confirmed by cdrwin, not dcdumper. Can all these drive really work by dcdumper? Also I have a PX-W4824TA and Plextor PX-755SA but doesn't work cdrwin, dcdumper and dic. I'm also connecting by USB external drive.
So, if use the same drive, some can dump good others can't dump. The problem may be the method connects the drive - USB, IDE or SATA etc - or the OS version - XP, Vista, 7 x86 or x64... or may be the firmware version of the drive, or may be the device driver to control the optical drive. I don't know where have the problem. Anyway the list that only the drive model is unsure.
jhmiller wrote:If my Plextor not work with DIC, no problem, always I can do the other method.
I think that it is good like that. By the way, how do you verify the GD-ROM? Do you have a multiple SH-D162C? As you already know it's important that a disc is at least dumped twice on different drives.