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Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:09 am
by MrX_Cuci
Even if I use your parameters (
/viewtopic.php?p=23661#p23661) I get the same CDB error.
If I use, 08 /c2 2000 8192 08, RAW mode is indeed used, but Motor Mash still fails to dump.
Speedread is indeed not supported according to PlexTools XL, so that explains the error.
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:37 pm
by pablogm123
Man, you have a X-File...
Even the older PX-W4824TA/TU drive can support that. More or less supports the same functions than Premium / Premium II and authentic PX-7xx drives, except Gigarec, that piece of pure trash named Silent Mode (due to this my PX-755SA won't read any pressed CD at 24x or higher speeds, 8x is the maximum speed), PowerRec and quality scans. Hide CD-R media, force single session mode and SpeedRead are available for any real Plextor drive I own.
Installed software which installs filter drives? My system is completely clean, absolutely 0 3rd party filter drivers and 0 drivers for virtual drives. And will stay that way.
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Filter Driver Load Order - ImgBurn v2.5.8.0
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Upper Device Filter: redbook
Upper Class Filter: [None Found]
Device: CD/DVD-ROM Device
Lower Device Filter: imapi
Filter Name: redbook
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys
File Version: 5.2.3790.3959 (srv03_sp2_rtm.070216-1710)
File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver
Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Product Version: 5.2.3790.3959
Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Filter Name: imapi
File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\imapi.sys
File Version: 5.2.3790.3959 (srv03_sp2_rtm.070216-1710)
File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver
Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Product Version: 5.2.3790.3959
Company Name: Microsoft Corporation
Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
A parameter in order to avoid DIC controlling this feature is needed, I guess.
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:34 pm
by MrX_Cuci
Hmmm....Plextools says it's an 708UF WIndows tells me it's a 708A. Firmware can be used for both. I cleared any third party virtuel drives. SPTD drivers are uninstalled.
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:21 pm
by pablogm123
PX-708UF, 'nuff said... ATAPI to USB bridge chip cannot pass properly certain low level commands for sure. At least my external PX-W4824TU supports these things properly, ATAPI to USB bridge chip is NEC, as far I remember, supposedly the best ones. Perhaps for the PX-708UF drive Plextor decided to implement a cheaper brand and thus support for certain low level commands isn't 100% OK.
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:43 am
by Sotho Tal Ker
My PX-708A does not support speedread either, but my PX-716A does.
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:46 pm
by sarami
I understood that PX-708 didn't support speedread.
http://ysscdr.web.fc2.com/px708a/px708a_02.htm
Fixed.
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 4:00 pm
by pablogm123
Solved X-File?
One thing... why don't implement an ultra-secure mode?
"ultrasecure n" Where n would be the number of read passes.
Idea is basically this one:
-Read multiple times the disc, as defined by n. I mean read the entire disc from AMSF 00:02:00 until the last pre-lead-out sector, and then read it another time, same method. Not to read n times 24 sectors (or whatever number of sectors read by DIC in a read command), the next 24 sectors n times and so on.
-If dumps of multiple passes do match and there are no C2 errors, create the final dump as usual.
-If they missmatch and at least one of them contains C2 errors, then cross/combine the C2 errors reported by the n passes and reread the questionable sectors until they can be recovered or limit of rereads for individual sectors is exhausted.
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:43 am
by MrX_Cuci
@sarami Interesting read that article. Seems the drive can dump safedisc up until 2.8 without problems. (Read create a correct burnable image) does this mean emulation is required to run the dumped image from 2.9 and up? If so, which drive can dump 2.9 and upward correctly?
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:01 am
by axisleon
SD 2.9
http://homepage2.nifty.com/yss/sd29/sd29.htm
SD 3.1
http://homepage2.nifty.com/yss/sd3/sd3.htm
EDIT:
rumor level, dont be serious.
I have H-L GSA-4040B, but have no SD2.9(up) games.
EDIT2:
some test data
LG Electronics GSA-4040B (+667)(Overread Lead-In)
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:04 am
by F1ReB4LL
pablogm123 wrote:Yes, I understand... no FUA for D8 command
sptd.Cdb[0] = 0xD8;
sptd.Cdb[1] = (FUAbit << 3);
sptd.Cdb[2] = byte((TargetSector>>24)&0xFF); // msb
sptd.Cdb[3] = byte((TargetSector>>16)&0xFF);
sptd.Cdb[4] = byte((TargetSector>>8)&0xFF);
sptd.Cdb[5] = byte((TargetSector)&0xFF); // lsb
sptd.Cdb[6] = byte((NbSectors>>24)&0xFF); // msb
sptd.Cdb[7] = byte((NbSectors>>16)&0xFF);
sptd.Cdb[8] = byte((NbSectors>>8)&0xFF);
sptd.Cdb[9] = byte((NbSectors)&0xFF); // lsb
Taken from
http://club.myce.com/attachments/f61/20 … hexsrc.zip
FUAbit == "True", if 0xD8(FUA) is supported by the drive, so, sptd.Cdb[1] = 1 << 3 = 1*2*2*2 = 8.