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Re: XBOX 1 / 360 dumping instructions

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:52 pm
by andoryuu3
Starshadow wrote:The video data is definitely present and accounted for in a Redump dump. Redump XBOX 1 and 360 dumps are basically SplitVid ONLY. The layer 1 half of the video data is only present on layer 1 of the dump (after the game partition). This matches the physical layout of the data on the disc. XDVDMulleter is not expecting this, and wants the layer 1 half of the video data to be copied into layer 0 (appended to the end of layer 0 video data). Redump doesn't do that because it doesn't match the original disc, and that's what we're interested in recording. But, if you patch in the SS, PFI, and DMI files and your drive firmware understands SplitVid, you should be able to do what you want with the dump regardless of what XDVDMulleter says about the video data. I have done it before.
That's what I'm interested in as well-- False alarm then. Thank you for the explanation. I will edit my post and leave a note in red text to ignore what I had to say, as well as link to your post.

I knew SplitVid was the "way to go" when creating X360 dumps (and I assumed that it was because it matched the original disc), however I did not realize Xbox 1 dumps are structured the same. This confusion highlights a problem that unfortunately plagues the 360, and that problem is most of the software related to it is out of date. I knew this was true of Schtrom360Extract and Xbox Backup Creator, but did not expect XDVDMulleter to be in the same boat (why I didn't think so is beyond me).

All of the above is exactly why I think this thread deserves extra praise-- IMHO FreeCell and ss_sector_range are a godsend in this sea of broken/out-of-date software. Personally I can't wait until DiscImageCreator is up to par with FreeCell. Seems it doesn't preserve random padding, and this time I'm certain I mean random padding. Using the following command only produced a 2.6GB image for my retail copy of Halo 2: "DiscImageCreator.exe xbox J: Halo2.iso". So I suspect either a glitch occured due to read errors, or DIC doesn't do random padding. I'll give it a shot with a disc that has been recently resurfaced and see if that helps.

In any case, I'm happy to know now that Redump Xbox 1 dumps are as accurate as they are. That's all I wanted from the very beginning. Image

Re: XBOX 1 / 360 dumping instructions

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:18 am
by Nextria
Hello,

I have bought a DG-16D2S of aliexpress and a X360 Usb pro 2.
With jungleflasher i flashed the drive with 0800 firmware.

Now i am using Xbox backup creator 2.9 build 0425 do dump a game.

I select in the options menu "Build Clean ISO" and select my drive.
in the read section is start, but get so many read errors.
the disk looks fine, has no scratch.

what am i doing wrong ?

Eddit:

i also cant seem to uncheck the use sector mapper (xbox One)

Re: XBOX 1 / 360 dumping instructions

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:38 am
by user7
https://wiki.redump.info/index.php?title= … ping_Guide

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A read error should occur shortly after starting the dump. This is normal. Check the box "Apply zero fill to all remaining sector errors." and click the "Zero-Fill Sector(s)" button.

Re: XBOX 1 / 360 dumping instructions

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:54 am
by Nextria
user7 wrote:https://wiki.redump.info/index.php?title= … ping_Guide

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A read error should occur shortly after starting the dump. This is normal. Check the box "Apply zero fill to all remaining sector errors." and click the "Zero-Fill Sector(s)" button.
Yes i read this, but it it started dumping, and is dumping now for like 11 minutes just with errors

Re: XBOX 1 / 360 dumping instructions

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:28 am
by antimatter
If I remember correctly, Xbox 1 dumping with 0800 drive takes about 45min+ & number of errors has to be 65,536 (security sectors), if there is more than 65,536 errors, then it is a bad dump.

Re: XBOX 1 / 360 dumping instructions

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:39 am
by Nextria
antimatter wrote:If I remember correctly, Xbox 1 dumping with 0800 drive takes about 45min+ & number of errors has to be 65,536 (security sectors), if there is more than 65,536 errors, then it is a bad dump.
Hey, I am trying to dump a 360 game.
I already cleaned the laser, and tried different games.

Re: XBOX 1 / 360 dumping instructions

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:59 am
by antimatter
My bad.
Nextria wrote:
user7 wrote:https://wiki.redump.info/index.php?title= … ping_Guide

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A read error should occur shortly after starting the dump. This is normal. Check the box "Apply zero fill to all remaining sector errors." and click the "Zero-Fill Sector(s)" button.
Yes i read this, but it it started dumping, and is dumping now for like 11 minutes just with errors
This gave me the impression you were dumping OG Xbox.

For Xbox 360, if error says "Block error recovered" it should be OK. Also should take 15-25min to dump.

Also
i also cant seem to uncheck the use sector mapper (xbox One)
can only be checked/unchecked with OG Xbox disc inserted.

Re: XBOX 1 / 360 dumping instructions

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:04 am
by user7
antimatter wrote:
i also cant seem to uncheck the use sector mapper (xbox One)
can only be checked/unchecked with OG Xbox disc inserted.
Just to clarify for the wiki. Does this have any effect on dumping X360 discs, whether it's checked or unchecked?

Re: XBOX 1 / 360 dumping instructions

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:08 am
by antimatter
Not 100% sure. Think it's only for OG Xbox & no effect on x360 discs.

Re: XBOX 1 / 360 dumping instructions

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:20 am
by antimatter
A read error should occur shortly after starting the dump. This is normal. Check the box "Apply zero fill to all remaining sector errors." and click the "Zero-Fill Sector(s)" button.
This is for OG Xbox only.

For Xbox 360, if any errors, the error(s) has to be "error recovered" or the dump will be bad.