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Re: Region and language tags

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:55 pm
by ps2gamer2k7
look the way i see this its changed get over it no intro's way works. It allows for fast scanning and updating ect and most people only care about what language a game is in anyway.

I agree its a pain to have to rename all the files (as im trying to sort out whats what at the moment)  but thats it end of

im keeping a database with all my games anyway with serial tags ect as long as i can find it i can unrar it to whatever its called Image

long live no-intro

Re: Region and language tags

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:27 am
by Viruz
HwitVlf: The USA and South/North america example against England and Europe is exactly the example i was trying to give.

Re: Region and language tags

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:58 pm
by Rocknroms
Jackal wrote:Rocknroms wanted to keep the old naming, as did some other people. My only advice to those people is that they should use their own custom naming (several people on here were already doing this, so they should be able to help you in that department).
I don't want to use any custom naming, I simply don't agree with this change.
By the way, at least someone can make an archive of cues splitted by system to help people fix everything.

PS: I hope to be back soon to explain it better and to reply to other topics, along with some new dumps.

EDIT: No-intro convention is super-good for GC/Wii because they are essentially carts (GC had to be a cart system - Dolphin) and they have quite the same flags of other N. carts (no-intro was based first on Nintendo stuff, so probably this is why it has no problem with GC/Wii). Personally, but this is my opinion, I don't like extended country flags ("E" is better than "Europe"). HwitVlf idea of using PAL/NTSC/JAPAN has more sense.

Re: Region and language tags

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:23 am
by GBK666
gigadeath wrote:
Jackal wrote:
iR0b0t wrote:LOL more "Region and language tags" postings Image
Thanks to the great forum software that doesn't even allow the merging of topics.. and if you split posts it 'forgets' the other pages, even though you selected them Image
Image Not that much of a problem since it's a dead topic, the naming convention is correct as it is now, we'll simply have to adjust the entries that collide after removing serials. The whole (E) = (England) issue is nonsense and everything has already been said about it.

Uh, nonsense eh?



Toss is right even if he explained/described his issue a bit wrong here.
There were indeed Games only released for the UK Market.

A few Football/Soccer Games come to mind for the PSX. UK Versions of Singstar which had Songs of UK Musicartist which were unknown in other Countries.

Like there were some Rugby Games only released in Australia  around 35 Games were released for the english market only.

And by that i dont mean Europe, only england.

So, our No-Intro based tagging is based of the region the game was released in, righty?

If we all really want to stick to that naming convention then it means that Games only released in England get their own Tag as well.


Again..by that i dont mean Games which are in english only. Those games in english but released in a lot european countries and australia should stick to the /Europe) Tag.

But those released only in the UK region deserve their own tag.

Of course that means a bit more research and investigation for the dumper.


Btw..there are still errors in the PSX and PS2 DB`s do to lack of reasearching.

I found around 10 Games already described as english only which also had other languages.

Others were described as "Region Australia" while they were the Multi 5 versions released and even produced in european countries.

I am known for complaining and recently i got disabled at UG for it after a discussion with a staffmember but dont get me wrong now please i just want the redump.org projects to be done with 100% careness . 

In the hddx forum i am going to create lists of psx and ps2 games with their serials.

those can help here maybe too ..i dunno.

the no intro naming has indeed it ups and downs but in the end....with some tweaking its the better solution i believe.

cheers, gbk


ps: i am willing to provide my help to get a list together of games only released for the UK.


this topic should be discussed again and the naming sheme changed so UK only games will be marked as those and not tagged with the Europe tag.

Re: Region and language tags

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:42 am
by GBK666
There were indeed Games only released for the UK Market.

A few Football/Soccer Games come to mind for the PSX. UK Versions of Singstar which had Songs of UK Musicartist which were unknown in other Countries.

Like there were some Rugby Games only released in Australia  around 35 Games were released for the english market only.

And by that i dont mean Europe, only england.

So, our No-Intro based tagging is based of the region the game was released in, righty?

If we all really want to stick to that naming convention then it means that Games only released in England get their own Tag as well.


Like Germany, Spain,Italy etc got their own Ps2 Singstar Games . England got unique versions as well.

another ps2 and UK only game was The X-Factor: Sing , a england "idol" version and bout ten-15 more ps2 uk games

Re: Region and language tags

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:34 pm
by gigadeath
If there are any games released in England only, just create a (England) tag and use it when it's necessary. I don't know what's the problem with that.

For the systems I'm directly involved with, the totality of PAL English-only games are whole-Europe release. As far as my part in the database goes, (E) is de facto ALWAYS (Europe). (E) = (England) is STILL nonsense for 99% of the cases.

If some PS1/PS2 games are England only, the dumper/adder will mark it as such when the tag is available.

Re: Region and language tags

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:59 pm
by Sotho Tal Ker
not england, but united kingdom.

Re: Region and language tags

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:52 pm
by GBK666
gigadeath wrote:If there are any games released in England only, just create a (England) tag and use it when it's necessary. I don't know what's the problem with that.

For the systems I'm directly involved with, the totality of PAL English-only games are whole-Europe release. As far as my part in the database goes, (E) is de facto ALWAYS (Europe). (E) = (England) is STILL nonsense for 99% of the cases.

If some PS1/PS2 games are England only, the dumper/adder will mark it as such when the tag is available.


Region    
Asia
Australia
Brazil
China
Czech
Europe
France
Finland
Germany
Greece
Italy
Japan
Korea
Poland
Russia
Spain
Sweden
USA
Ukraine

only those tags are avaiable , thats my problem

bout 20-30 ps2 pal games were released in the UK only. thats less then 1 percent of all pal ps2 games of course but its for sure more  as the :  Ukraine,Sweden,Russia, Greece, Finland,Czech, Brazil

so..if those tags are possible for ps2 games. an UK/england tag should be  avaiable as well.

there are only 5-10 sweden only ps2 pal games as example btw
bout 5 psx greece only/language games for psx but as far as i know not evne one greek only game was released for the ps2.

Re: Region and language tags

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:31 pm
by Rocknroms
Also some Gamecube games have a "only UK" release. Looking at DB you can see these ones have a serial ending with -UKV and quite most of them have also a different multi Euro release.
This is something that begins with previous console generation just to have a release for every language.
If a tag must be used it's better to choose "UK" if we are into no-intro.

Re: Region and language tags

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:50 am
by GBK666
Rocknroms wrote:Also some Gamecube games have a "only UK" release. Looking at DB you can see these ones have a serial ending with -UKV and quite most of them have also a different multi Euro release.
This is something that begins with previous console generation just to have a release for every language.
If a tag must be used it's better to choose "UK" if we are into no-intro.
yeah, most of em.. but some were just released in england/UK..and those are the games which should have the UK tag