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Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:12 pm
by sarami
Nexy wrote:Well I looked at the sectors in cdmage, on one disc the sync is shifted by 16 bytes to the right (safedisc) and on another disc the sync is shifted into the previous sector's ecc/edc area (normal disc). So yeah I think this is a bug with the DVD drives.
I think so, too.
Nexy wrote:Ski-Doo Team Racing is indeed using RingPROTECH but it has multiple files, here's a list.
No. RingPROTECH / ProRing have always protect.pro. This file occupies the size about 40MB.
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:16 am
by Nexy
Well I don't know what it is then, there are only so many ring protections and it's similar to the Settlers one.
It would be nice if I can skip all these files tho, that shouldn't be hard to implement.
Is there any chance of slowing down the drive on read errors automatically?
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:53 am
by sarami
Nexy wrote:Ski-Doo Team Racing
I'll get it to test. Please tell me the region and UPC/EAN.
Nexy wrote:Is there any chance of slowing down the drive on read errors automatically?
Why? I don't think slow reading generates good reading. If you think slow reading is good, you need to specify that.
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:24 am
by Nexy
The outer areas of the disc need slower speed to not get read errors when they are "over burned" size. I have to stop a dump and redump with slower speed to avoid C2 errors on some discs. SafeDisc in particular is annoying with this, but also other overburned discs. It is normal drive behavior to slow the disc a bit when read errors occur, other tools do it too. Plextors support both CLV and CAV, the slower speeds are CLV.
Ski-Doo X-Team Racing is USA region, UPC is 0 79714 50970 2
The Europe region has a different protection.
I would still ask if you make it so exceeding the read error count for a sector doesn't abort the whole dump either normally or with a switch.
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:31 am
by sarami
Nexy wrote:The outer areas of the disc need slower speed to not get read errors when they are "over burned" size. I have to stop a dump and redump with slower speed to avoid C2 errors on some discs.
Then, you should use the slow speed from the beginning when dump the over burned disc.
Or if DIC can detect it is the overburned disc, DIC can set the slow speed forcibly.
Nexy wrote:Ski-Doo X-Team Racing is USA region, UPC is 0 79714 50970 2
The Europe region has a different protection.
Thanks. I'll order it by amazon or ebay. Btw, what protection the Europe version has?
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:58 pm
by Nexy
Ski-doo uses SafeDisc in EU.
What about the abort on error? Seems you ignore this request all the time. Sometimes a disc just doesn't want to read in audio mode, but works fine in data mode. In which case I can just fix the bad sectors later but still get a good cue file and other things.
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 2:12 pm
by reentrant
If you mean do not skip on uncorrectable C2 error - I vote for that too...
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:49 pm
by Nexy
Yes, exactly, it should just keep going and forget the sector is corrupted. Often times they read without error with BE so I can just replace the sector(s).
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:57 am
by sarami
Nexy wrote:Sometimes a disc just doesn't want to read in audio mode
I need those logs.
Nexy wrote:Often times they read without error with BE
Because often times 0xbe handles mastering error sector as no-error sector.
Re: DiscImageCreator
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:30 am
by reentrant
I have few hundred discs with -153 offset that report C2 error on Plextors. Ony any other drives there's no error. It looks like it's bug in FW. There's no other way to dump these discs then to custom compile DIC with some patches. Would be great if you introduce at least a switch to ignore these errors.