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Re: [DONE] Discussing the multisession cue

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:24 pm
by user7
Where are we at with this guys? Redump going offline kind of stuttered this conversation.

Re: [DONE] Discussing the multisession cue

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 11:53 pm
by Jackal
I'd like to know if the TOC/subchannels of multisession discs (and/or rainbow books) really have a "RUN-OUT", "LEAD-OUT" and "LEAD-IN" marked between sessions. If they do, then I wonder why IsoBuster omitted the LEAD-IN.

Re: [DONE] Discussing the multisession cue

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 1:46 pm
by F1ReB4LL
Can somebody dump any multisessional disc either with cdtoimg_d8 (if it even supports multisessional dumps?) or with swapping + isobuster? And the subchannels separately, since the additional TOC, if it's there, is stored in them.

Leadout sectors are surely there. I think, it is possible the 2nd session starts straight with the pregap sectors of the 1st track without any additional lead-in UNLESS it's a multisessional CD-R. Isobuster ignores the pregaps, so its cues aren't clear enough. Anyway, DIC needs to show not only where the leadout begins, but also where it ends (or its length), otherwise, since the tracks aren't merged into a single image, the address of the 2nd session is unclear.

Re: [DONE] Discussing the multisession cue

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 9:23 pm
by sarami
F1ReB4LL wrote:DIC needs to show not only where the leadout begins, but also where it ends (or its length)
Uploaded test version
- added: Lead-out length of 1st session in _disc.txt (needs /ms flag)
- fixed: incorrect 'REM SESSION' position.

Logs
http://www.mediafire.com/file/33yj4wjky … og.7z/file
Jackal wrote:"RUN-OUT"
It seems old isobuster supports it. https://forum.daemon-tools.cc/showthread.php?t=6281
But latest version doesn't output it.

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FILE "CD.iso" BINARY

REM ORIGINAL MEDIA-TYPE: CD
CATALOG 4943674011599

  REM SESSION 01        (*)
    TRACK 01 AUDIO
      ISRC JPWP09906010
      INDEX 01 00:00:00
         REM LBA: 0
    TRACK 02 AUDIO
      ISRC JPWP09906020
      INDEX 01 03:35:47
         REM LBA: 16172
    TRACK 03 AUDIO
      ISRC JPWP09906030
      INDEX 01 06:42:30
         REM LBA: 30180
    TRACK 04 AUDIO
      ISRC JPWP09906040
      INDEX 01 08:41:55
         REM LBA: 39130
    TRACK 05 AUDIO
      ISRC JPWP09906050
      INDEX 01 11:28:17
         REM LBA: 51617
    TRACK 06 AUDIO
      ISRC JPWP09906060
      INDEX 01 14:15:62
         REM LBA: 64187
    TRACK 07 AUDIO
      ISRC JPWP09906070
      INDEX 01 17:23:67
         REM LBA: 78292
    TRACK 08 AUDIO
      ISRC JPWP09906080
      INDEX 01 22:08:10
         REM LBA: 99610
    TRACK 09 AUDIO
      ISRC JPWP09906090
      INDEX 01 24:38:62
         REM LBA: 110912
    TRACK 10 AUDIO
      ISRC JPWP09906100
      INDEX 01 27:34:52
         REM LBA: 124102
    TRACK 11 AUDIO
      ISRC JPWP09906110
      INDEX 01 29:52:25
         REM LBA: 134425
    TRACK 12 AUDIO
      ISRC JPWP09906120
      INDEX 01 32:10:72
         REM LBA: 144822
    TRACK 13 AUDIO
      ISRC JPWP09906130
      INDEX 01 34:32:62
         REM LBA: 155462
    TRACK 14 AUDIO
      ISRC JPWP09906140
      INDEX 01 37:32:67
         REM LBA: 168967

  REM LEAD-OUT 41:01:67 (*)
  REM SESSION 02        (*)
    TRACK 15 MODE2/2352
      INDEX 01 43:33:67
         REM LBA: 196042

REM (*) SESSION commands are not supported by all applications

REM Generated by IsoBuster 4.3.0.00 (https://www.isobuster.com)

Re: [DONE] Discussing the multisession cue

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 10:10 pm
by user7
Tried doing a test. Super slow around Creating .scm (LBA) 118540/299510 of my dump. Had to cancel. It is a Audio tracks then data track at end.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18XpsFO … sp=sharing

Re: [DONE] Discussing the multisession cue

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 9:46 am
by user7
I left a Multisession game dumping overnight and its still going... is it supposed to take so long? It started going slow about 8000 sectors in. maybe I hit the second lead in?

Re: [DONE] Discussing the multisession cue

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 9:48 am
by Jackal
Tbh any dump that goes 1 sector per second can't be good

Re: [DONE] Discussing the multisession cue

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 9:56 am
by user7
In that case, canceled. Here's the logs: https://drive.google.com/file/d/15_cD3W … sp=sharing

sarami, maybe you need a multisession disc to test? One of the Japanese unlicensed Action Replay Dreamcast discs come to mind.

Re: [DONE] Discussing the multisession cue

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 10:06 pm
by sarami
user7 wrote:I left a Multisession game dumping overnight and its still going... is it supposed to take so long?
Can PX-708A get the TOC?

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DiscImageCreator audio <DriveLetter> TOC 4 -5000 -1100
or get the index 0 of track 1?

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DiscImageCreator cd <DriveLetter> <Filename> <DriveSpeed(0-72)> /p
If not, dic can't support /ms flag for PX-708A.

Re: [DONE] Discussing the multisession cue

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 11:13 pm
by user7
I tested with a 708 and 755 the disc from my first test:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1U0s1A … OHTuu5pKQ6