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Re: Game title capitalisation, Soulcalibur, SoulCalibur or SOULCALIBUR

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:14 am
by MrTikki
What you're debating is how to properly format a Trademark, and the problem is that everyone's opinion is sort of right.

Trademarks generally come in two different formats: (1) Logo mark and (2) Word mark.

"SoulCalibur" and "SoulCalibuR" and "SoulcalibuR" are simply stylized uses of the word "SOULCALIBUR" that appear in the Logo, whereas the Word mark "SOULCALIBUR" is generally more clear cut as to how the copyright holder originally intended it to look in TEXT format.

However, Word marks can be misleading as well, since a Word mark that is registered secures all rights to use that word (regardless of the styling). In other words: "APPLE" and "Apple" and "apple" = the same Word mark, but they would yield three different logo marks.

So with that said...it's really a matter of looking to see how the copyright holder set it as and determine which style is the most accurate. Clear as mud, right? Hope that helps! Image

Cheers!
-MrTikki-

Re: Game title capitalisation, Soulcalibur, SoulCalibur or SOULCALIBUR

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:10 am
by F1ReB4LL
The official title written by the publisher or developer can be used as a
reference including related titles from other media (movie titles). Some titles
also have an unusual capitalization on purpose. In that case, capitalization
should be left as intended.
Nothing about trademarks (which are usually in uppercase and can't be used as a title). SoulCalibur is an unusual capitalization on purpose, since it's a fictional word constructed from 2 standalone words, clearly visible on the title screen. You can leave 3rd part as Soulcalibur, if you want, but 1, 2 and 4 are SoulCalibur.

Re: Game title capitalisation, Soulcalibur, SoulCalibur or SOULCALIBUR

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:19 pm
by NvrBst
F1ReB4LL wrote:Means absolutely nothing.
Not sure if it means absolutely nothing hehe. In my opinion redump should catalog all title stylizations written on box/manual/etc. The dumper (or others) can input them if they wish (main titles being the only mandatory field). For example in this case it'd be:

Main Title: SoulCalibur III
Spindle Title: SOULCALIBUR®III
Box Logo Title: SᴏᴜʟᴄᴀʟɪʙᴜR®III
InGame Title: SᴏᴜʟᴄᴀʟɪʙᴜR®III
SFO Title: SOULCALIBUR III
Licence Title: SOULCALIBUR®III


"Main Title" being the No-Intro\common franchise name (aka what the world, like mobygames or wiki, write the game as). Also what is used by redump to generate filenames. Typically "Main Title" stylization is same across all games in the series, and, this would make everything on the HDD look nicer (bundled together and consistant).

The other titles would need to probably be specific per system (aka only PS3's have SFO Titles, TuboGraph 16 probably doesn't have licence titles based on screen shot you gave, etc. Maybe this is all too tedious/accurate for what redump wants to do Image. I'm sure it's possible to implement to lessen the tediousness though, something like a bunch of "Title: ____" fields with checkbox's afterwards so people could for example write each stylization once and just checkbox the boxes with that version of the title (aka above Spindle/License would be checkboxed on a line and InGame/SFO checkboxed on a line). Maybe even a checkbox to indicate if it is a "Logo Mark" or "Word Mark".

Just a thought, I'm sure it's been suggested before though.

Nothing about trademarks (which are usually in uppercase and can't be used as a title).
Maybe thats true for other systems, but, at least for PS3 less than 20% are all caps (usually only if the logo title is all caps). If you don't believe me here is a sample list of the licence titles for some of my ps3 dumps: http://pastebin.com/Zw0PVyzx

Re: Game title capitalisation, Soulcalibur, SoulCalibur or SOULCALIBUR

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:22 am
by F1ReB4LL