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Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:54 pm**

>The disc title is "ops2m demo 73/benelux". ops2m = Official PlayStation Magazine.

The benelux demo is a regional exclusive for that serial number / data variant. A different number is on the sleeve, the correct chronological number in the series. Again, you're ignoring the fact that there are TWO demo #s for these releases and picking the one that is NOT linear to the local series.

>Using the magazine titles and issue numbers doesn't appear to be a good solution, especially because different magazine issues from different countries can have the same disc.

Its not just "Magazine titles and Issue Numbers" its the Demo Disc # on the sleeve. The sleeve demo numbers are ordered linear, the demo disc numbers are not.

>especially because different magazine issues from different countries can have the same disc.

These are already tracked inside the master (UK) entries - which are completely dumped, however this does not relate to regional exclusives.

> The solution that you provided for those cases of just picking one of the countries / issue numbers to go in the filename (and thereby ignoring the other ones) is unacceptable imo.

Its better to use one accurate title, than an inaccurate one. These regional exclusive discs are NOT released as the titles you're putting them as. You're ignoring the proper regional order and title/Demo# on sleeve, while defaulting to UK titles that don't even appear ANYWHERE on disc or packaging.

Here's an example of why your system of numbering is terrible.

Looking at AUS by going off the Disc Label Demo #s for issues 10-15, this is how your system would title them:
10
16
12
31
32
33

By going off the Sleeve Demo #s:
10
11
12
13
14
15

You're giving these entries Demo #s that came from re-used artwork, rather than their proper release order (sleeve demo #'s).

There are TWO Demo #'s on all these releases. You're choosing the bad system to act as title entries.

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:14 pm**

How about we all stop with the snarky comments and calling each other's actions clusterfucks and just focus on the conversation about proper submission / database conventions. We can do so without getting all accusatory and negative with each other. Thank you.

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:33 pm**

In the end it all comes down to the filenames. Even if there is some logic behind the issue numbers of different countries' magazines, the question is if this logic can translate (at all) to the filenames and if it doesn't create a huge confusing mess.

Here are all the filenames after applying the disc title based / PCSX2 wiki naming scheme:

Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Crime Special (Europe)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 1 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 10 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 10 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 100 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 101 (Netherlands)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 11 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 11 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 11 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 12 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 12 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 12 (Germany) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 13 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 13 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 13 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 14 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 14 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 15 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 15 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 16 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 16 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 16 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 17 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 17 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 17 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 18 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 18 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 18 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 19 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 2 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 20 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 20 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 20 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 21 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 21 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 22 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 22 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 22-23 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 23 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 24 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 24 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 24 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 25 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 25 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 25 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 26 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 27 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 27 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 27 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 28 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 28 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 29 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 29 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 29 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 3 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 30 (Australia)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 30 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 30 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 30 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 31 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It) (SCED-51556)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 31 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It) (SCED-51529)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 31 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 32 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 32 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 32 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 33 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 33 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 33 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 34 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 34 (France)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 34 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 35 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 35 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 35 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 36 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 36 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 37 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 37 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 38 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 38 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 38 (Germany) (En,De) (Uncut)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 39 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 39 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 40 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 40 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 40 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 41 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 41 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 41 (Germany) (En,Fr,De,Es,It) (Uncut)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 41 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 42 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 42 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 42 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 43 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 43 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 43 (Germany) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 44 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 44 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 45 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 45 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 45 (Germany) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 46 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 47 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 47 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 47 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 48 (Europe)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 48 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 48 (Germany) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 49 (Europe)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 49 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 49 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 5 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 50 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 50 (Germany) (En,Fr,De,Es,It) (SCED-52796)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 50 (Germany) (En,De) (SCED-52090)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 50 (UK)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 51 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 51 (Germany) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 51 (UK)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 52 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 52 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 52 (UK)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 53 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 53 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 53 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 53 (UK)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 54 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 54 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 54 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 55 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 55 (Europe, Australia)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 55 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 56 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 56 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 57 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 57 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 57 (UK) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 58 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 58 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 58 (Spain, Portugal)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 58 (UK) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 59 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 59 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 59 (UK) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 6 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 60 (Europe, Australia)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 60 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 60 (UK) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 61 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 61 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 61 (UK) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 62 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 62 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 62 (UK) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 63 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 63 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 63 (UK) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 64 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 64 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 65 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 65 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 66 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 66 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 67 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 67 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 67 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 68 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 68 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 69 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 69 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 69 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 7 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 70 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 70 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 71 (Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 71 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 71 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 71 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 71 (Spain, Portugal)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 72 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 72 (France)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 72 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 73 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 73 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 73 (Netherlands)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 74 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 74 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 74 (Spain) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 75 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 75 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 76 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 76 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 77 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 77 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 78 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 78 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 78 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 79 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 79 (Germany) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 8 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 80 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 80 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 81 (Europe, Australia) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 81 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 82 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 82 (Germany) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 83 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 84 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 84 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 85 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 86 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 87 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 88 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 89 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 9 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 9 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 90 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 91 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 92 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 93 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 94 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 95 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 96 (Europe)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 97 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 98 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 99 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Germany Special 2-2005 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Germany Special 3-2005 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Germany Special Edition 01-2004 (Germany) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Germany Special Edition 1 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Germany Special Edition 2003-01 (Germany) (En,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Germany Special Edition 2003-02 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Germany Special Edition 2003-03 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Germany Special Edition 2007-1 (Germany)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Greatest Hits Vol.5 (UK) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Sonderausgabe 2004-3 (Germany) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Special Edition 11 (Europe)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Special Edition 12 (Europe)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Special Edition 13 - Girls! Motors! Guns! War! Monsters! (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Special Edition 14 (Europe)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Special Edition 15 (Europe)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Special Edition 16 (Europe)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Special Edition 17 (Europe)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Special Edition 18 - Hot 100 (Europe) (En,Fr,De)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Special Edition 19 - 2004 Classics Hitlist (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Special Edition 20 - It's Here! (Europe)
Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Special Noel 2004 (France) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)

There are even regional variants with the same serial: https://redump.info/disc/11941/ & https://redump.info/disc/45372/ so there's a definite logic behind this naming and this logic would go away when using the magazine titles / issues.

Except for the Italian ones, which are unaltered and seem to have inconsistent naming: https://redump.info/discs/quicksearch/ufficiale/

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:43 pm**

Jackal --- I do see your point regarding the naming when looking at it from a global perspective. I guess the challenge here is what should come first as the guiding principle for naming? On the one hand, when looking at it from a global perspective, the sorting makes sense looking at what you shared. On the other hand, when looking in a particular region, the numbering and sorting doesn't really make much sense.

So I think both perspectives have some merit and aren't completely illogical.

However, let's look at another sample of this concept. When you look at a game that is released in multiple regions, but has slightly different names (whether due to language, or even just other regional changes), we ultimately choose the name of the item by that region's "correct" localized name, as opposed to matching all of the titles just to have a sort of worldwide consistency. So from that perspective, user7's sugggestion is a bit more consistent with that ideology.

I realize the difference here stems from the discs themselves having the copied disc art with a number that doesn't seem to match up to that region's sleeve / info. So I can see somewhat the alternative perspective. But traditionally speaking, when I'm looking at an individual submission and looking at that particular item for that particular region, it seems logical to me at least, to try to pick the best name that applies most to that particular region. I think this is something that there just may be different viewpoints on.

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:09 pm**

sadikyo wrote:On the other hand, when looking in a particular region, the numbering and sorting doesn't really make much sense.

There are still some skipped numbers, which are undumped discs, if that's what you mean.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:04 am**

Regarding the IT names i should say that the titles used in the datfile are not exactly matching the cover and the disc.

For example:
https://redump.info/disc/49580/
the datfile title is "Magazine Ufficiale PlayStation 2 Demo Italia 09/03"

the cover says "PlayStation 2 Magazine Ufficiale - DVD Demo 15"

the disc title is "ups2m demo italia 09/03"

I haven't added them myself to the database, i've just sent them when i was not a mod yet, but they can be corrected of course.
We should decide to put the cover name or the disc title as the main name inside the datfile.
My opinion is that the cover title may be easier to order and it's easier to get a consistent file name for all the entries. Starting from "PlayStation 2 Magazine Ufficiale - DVD Demo 01 (Italy) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)" and going on. Or, if we want to take an "international" title to be consistent with all the other entries, the title may be "Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo 1 (Italy) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)" for example.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:33 am**

Presuming we stay with Jackal's numbering system, then the Italian entries should be modified to line up with the other OPS2M demos.

For example if the title should be renamed: Official PlayStation 2 Magazine Demo [number relating to UK release contents] (Italy).

Which carries none of the original information. I'm not sure why Italy did not receive the Jackal naming treatment yet, but Germany has - both of which refer to dates on their disc labels and not issue numbers.

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