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Re: Dumping discs with Ring Protech

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:26 pm
by user7
This should go into a guide eventually, if it's not something DIC can implement? sarami?

Re: Dumping discs with Ring Protech

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:05 pm
by _Maki
user7 wrote:This should go into a guide eventually, if it's not something DIC can implement? sarami?
I guess the problem is that Plextor drives are not suitable for this kind of protection.

Re: Dumping discs with Ring Protech

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:18 pm
by reentrant
It would be easier if I implement in CDArchive cue file support so that sectors are merged in the right track.
I can do it over weekend...

Re: Dumping discs with Ring Protech

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:20 pm
by _Maki
reentrant wrote:It would be easier if I implement in CDArchive cue file support so that sectors are merged in the right track.
I can do it over weekend...
That would probably make things easier.

I'm actually using this method now for a Ring ProTech disc, and some of the sectors that CDArchive extracts return

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User data vs. ecc/edc doesn't match
after merging with the .bin and then checking them with EccEdc.exe.
The problem is now that CDArchive doesn't extract those sectors again. Can EccEdc.exe overwrite them as 0x55?

Re: Dumping discs with Ring Protech

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:38 am
by sarami
@Jackal, reentrant
Btw, did you test all vendor drive (nec, hitachi-lg, matsushita, teac, tsst, asus etc.) except optiarc and plextor?
Is optiarc really best drive for ring protect like laserlock or proring?

Re: Dumping discs with Ring Protech

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:28 am
by Jackal
sarami wrote:@Jackal, reentrant
Btw, did you test all vendor drive (nec, hitachi-lg, matsushita, teac, tsst, asus etc.) except optiarc and plextor?
Is optiarc really best drive for ring protect like laserlock or proring?
For LaserLock, the PX-760A also seems able to read the sectors, but it takes longer to retry every sector.

Some Lite-On drives (e.g. SOHD-167T) might also give good results, but I didn't test them.

Samsung SH-D162D, LG GDR-8164B are no good for these discs.

Re: Dumping discs with Ring Protech

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:07 am
by sarami
What model do you recommend and not recommend?

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Optiarc - BD DRV BC-5600S    +48    25    100%
Optiarc - BD ROM BC-5100S    +667    22    100%
Optiarc - BD ROM BC-5500A    +48    226    100%
Optiarc - BD ROM BC-5500H    +48    97    100%
Optiarc - BD ROM BC-5500S4    +48    86    100%
Optiarc - BD ROM BC-5500S    +48    523    100%
Optiarc - BD ROM BC-5530H    +48    6    100%
Optiarc - BD ROM BC-5540H    +48    13    100%
Optiarc - BD ROM BC-5550H    +48    34    100%
Optiarc - BD ROM BC-5600S    +48    44    100%
Optiarc - BD ROM BC-5640H    +48    27    100%
Optiarc - BD ROM BC-5650H    +48    7    100%
Optiarc - BD RW BD-5300S    +6    195    100%
Optiarc - BD RW BD-5730S6    +48    28    100%
Optiarc - BD RW BD-5730S    +48    58    100%
Optiarc - BD RW BD-5740H    +48    19    100%
Optiarc - BD RW BD-5740L    +48    17    100%
Optiarc - BD RW BD-5750H    +48    85    100%
Optiarc - BD RW BD-5750L    +48    12    100%
Optiarc - BD RW BD-5840H    +48    18    100%
Optiarc - BD RW BD-5850H    +48    42    100%
Optiarc - BD-ROM BR-5100S    +79    58    100%
Optiarc - BDRW BD-M100A    +102    1    100%
Optiarc - CD-RW CRX870A    +6    1    100%
Optiarc - CD-RW CRX880A    +6    43    100%
Optiarc - CDRWDVD CRX890A    +6    14    100%
Optiarc - CDRWDVD CRX890S    +6    6    100%
Optiarc - DVD ROM DDU7700H    +48    4    100%
Optiarc - DVD ROM DDU7710H    +48    1    100%
Optiarc - DVD ROM DDU7740H    +48    3    100%
Optiarc - DVD ROM DDU7930H    +48    1    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-5170A    +48    589    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-5170S    +48    4    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-5200A    +48    315    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-5200S    +48    114    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-5240S    +48    366    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-5260S    +48    356    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-5280S    +48    229    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-5530A    +6    17    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-5540A    +48    91    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-5540B    +48    3    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-5590A    +48    12    100%
OPTIARC - DVD RW AD-5630A    +48    97    100%
OPTIARC - DVD RW AD-5670S    +48    59    100%
OPTIARC - DVD RW AD-5670SC    +48    4    100%
OPTIARC - DVD RW AD-5680H    +48    149    100%
OPTIARC - DVD RW AD-5690H    +48    42    100%
OPTIARC - DVD RW AD-5960S    +48    9    100%
OPTIARC - DVD RW AD-5970H    +48    24    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7170A    +48    710    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7170S    +48    596    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7173A    +48    970    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7173S    +48    425    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7190A    +6    115    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7190S    +6    45    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7191A    +6    94    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7191S    +6    253    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7200A    +48    528    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7200S    +48    941    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7201A    +48    77    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7201S5    +48    55    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7201S6    +48    24    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7201S    +48    246    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7203A    +48    295    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7203S    +48    653    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7220A    +6    23    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7220S    +6    53    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7221A    +6    5    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7221S    +6    5    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7230S    +48    54    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7231S5    +48    18    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7233S    +48    20    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7240S    +48    1450    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7241S    +48    530    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7243S    +48    189    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7250H    +48    60    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7260S    +48    829    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7261S    +48    266    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7263S    +48    121    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7270H    +48    10    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7280S    +48    562    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7283S    +48    50    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7290H    +48    35    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7530A    +6    171    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7530B    +6    202    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7540A    +48    304    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7543A    +48    88    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7543B    +48    10    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7543C    +48    10    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7560A    +6    337    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7560S    +6    277    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7561A    +6    141    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7561S    +6    344    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7563A    +6    58    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7580A    +6    34    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7580S    +6    363    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7581A    +6    25    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7581S    +6    58    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7583S    +6    24    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7585H    +6    249    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7590A    +48    96    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7590B    +48    13    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7590S    +48    112    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7590T    +48    6    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7591S    +48    17    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7593A    +48    38    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7593B    +48    3    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7630A    +48    33    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7633A    +48    24    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7640A    +6    24    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7640S    +6    37    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7643S    +6    8    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7670S    +48    16    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7690H    +48    33    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7700H    +48    173    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7700S    +48    184    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7700T    +48    30    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7703S    +48    12    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7710H    +48    247    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7710I    +48    10    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7713H    +48    4    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7717H    +48    20    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7730U    +6    1    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7740H    +48    138    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7740I    +48    8    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7760H    +48    33    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7760I    +48    1    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7800H    +48    13    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7803H    +48    5    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7910A    +48    155    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7910S    +48    173    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7913A    +48    3    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7930H    +48    162    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7930V    +48    6    66%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7940H    +48    20    100%
Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7980H    +48    2    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-5170S    +48    143    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-5540A    +48    267    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-5560A    +6    198    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7200S    +48    312    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7230S    +48    85    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7250H    +48    38    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7270H    +48    9    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7560S    +6    34    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7580A    +6    26    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7580S    +6    57    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7585H    +6    34    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7640A    +6    175    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7640S    +6    172    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7700H    +48    39    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7717H    +48    63    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7747H    +48    9    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7760H    +48    2    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW AD-7930H    +48    31    100%
Optiarc - DVD+-RW ND-3570A    +48    78    100%
Optiarc - DVD-ROM DDU1671S    +6    86    100%
Optiarc - DVD-ROM DDU1675A    +6    8    100%
Optiarc - DVD-ROM DDU1675S    +6    23    100%
OPTIARC - DVD-ROM DDU1678A    +6    22    100%
OPTIARC - DVD-ROM DDU1681S    +6    106    100%
Optiarc - DVD-ROM DDU820A    +6    1    100%
Optiarc - DVD-ROM DDU820S    +6    1    100%
Optiarc - DVD-RW AD-7173A    +48    1    100%
Optiarc - DVDRWBD BC-5540H    +48    53    100%
Optiarc - DVDRWBD BC-5550H    +48    2    100%
Optiarc - DVDRWBD BC-5600S    +48    72    100%

Re: Dumping discs with Ring Protech

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:42 am
by Jackal
I only tested the AD-7280S.. @reentrant which model did you have?

Re: Dumping discs with Ring Protech

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:08 am
by AlMagno
I have: Optiarc - DVD RW AD-7290H

Re: Dumping discs with Ring Protech

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:00 am
by _Maki
I've run into a problem Image

I'm dumping this disc right now using the method described above.
As you can see from this image, on the outside of the ring, there are some strange spikes that are very hard to read for my Optiarc AD-7280S, even with 50 retries in both directions. I also tried a Plextor 760A drive and an LG.

After letting CDArchive run multiple times, most of the 0x55 sectors outside of the ring have now been extracted and replaced, but many of them now don't match the ecc/edc. I attached my log file so you can check it out.


What do I do now? CDArchive does not extract these sectors again, because they are not 0x55.
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