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Re: Settlers III Mission CD copy protected by Sysiphus

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:34 pm
by comradesean
reentrant wrote:It could this: https://redump.info/disc/42279/

Also Ring PROTECH cannot be dumped with Plextors.
1) Extract AUDIO using DIC.
2) Extract DATA using OptiARC.

This is the only solution...
Dump like safedisc?

Re: Settlers III Mission CD copy protected by Sysiphus

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:03 pm
by reentrant
Yes

Re: Settlers III Mission CD copy protected by Sysiphus

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:00 pm
by sarami
reentrant wrote:It could this: https://redump.info/disc/42279/

Also Ring PROTECH cannot be dumped with Plextors.
1) Extract AUDIO using DIC.
2) Extract DATA using OptiARC.

This is the only solution...
Does this disc has "PROTECT.PRO" file? or found the string "Allocator" in bin file?


https://www.gamecopyworld.eu/games/pc_s … _old.shtml
Unreadable Errors
The topside of CD #1 has been "damaged", a ring (about 1 mm) is clearly visible at about 1/3 of the outside of the CD.
GameCopyWorld isn't using the word "Ring PROTECH". If this disc is really Ring PROTECH, GameCopyWorld will also use this word.
Protected disc list: http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cd … tech.shtml
This protect is also adopted in Japanese disc. http://www12.plala.or.jp/t2-bun/list5.html

Re: Settlers III Mission CD copy protected by Sysiphus

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:27 am
by comradesean
sarami wrote:
reentrant wrote:It could this: https://redump.info/disc/42279/

Also Ring PROTECH cannot be dumped with Plextors.
1) Extract AUDIO using DIC.
2) Extract DATA using OptiARC.

This is the only solution...
Does this disc has "PROTECT.PRO" file? or found the string "Allocator" in bin file?


https://www.gamecopyworld.eu/games/pc_s … _old.shtml
Unreadable Errors
The topside of CD #1 has been "damaged", a ring (about 1 mm) is clearly visible at about 1/3 of the outside of the CD.
GameCopyWorld isn't using the word "Ring PROTECH". If this disc is really Ring PROTECH, GameCopyWorld will also use this word.
Protected disc list: http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cd … tech.shtml
This protect is also adopted in Japanese disc. http://www12.plala.or.jp/t2-bun/list5.html
It is definitely similiar, but I don't think it's the exact same protection. Might have been licensed by the company and alteted since I've only ever heard of it on Settlers III and it's expansions. I'll check for the files tonight, but pretty sure they aren't there.

On another note, I ordered an AD-7201S that is on it's way

Re: Settlers III Mission CD copy protected by Sysiphus

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:15 pm
by comradesean
I'm at a loss. Using the Optiarc with CDM and I'm getting different number of errors every time I run it again.

edit: Got the same number of errors on two different dumps, but different errors and mismatch on CRC.

Re: Settlers III Mission CD copy protected by Sysiphus

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:21 am
by escarlata
reentrant wrote:It could this: https://redump.info/disc/42279/

Also Ring PROTECH cannot be dumped with Plextors.
1) Extract AUDIO using DIC.
2) Extract DATA using OptiARC.

This is the only solution...
I'm new here! What is DIC? And what's the best method for dumping only Audio CDs? I couldn't find a guide for that

Re: Settlers III Mission CD copy protected by Sysiphus

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:01 pm
by iR0b0t
escarlata wrote:I'm new here! What is DIC? And what's the best method for dumping only Audio CDs? I couldn't find a guide for that
DIC = DiscImageCreator, which can be used to dump audio discs.

Re: Settlers III Mission CD copy protected by Sysiphus

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:53 am
by comradesean
sarami wrote:
reentrant wrote:It could this: https://redump.info/disc/42279/

Also Ring PROTECH cannot be dumped with Plextors.
1) Extract AUDIO using DIC.
2) Extract DATA using OptiARC.

This is the only solution...
Does this disc has "PROTECT.PRO" file? or found the string "Allocator" in bin file?


https://www.gamecopyworld.eu/games/pc_s … _old.shtml
Unreadable Errors
The topside of CD #1 has been "damaged", a ring (about 1 mm) is clearly visible at about 1/3 of the outside of the CD.
GameCopyWorld isn't using the word "Ring PROTECH". If this disc is really Ring PROTECH, GameCopyWorld will also use this word.
Protected disc list: http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cd … tech.shtml
This protect is also adopted in Japanese disc. http://www12.plala.or.jp/t2-bun/list5.html
Sarami, there is no protect.pro file and there are only two .bin files which do not contain the string allocator.

The protection relies on the file MISSIONS.DAT being corrupted from the ring of damaged sectors?, but it is a unique protection created by Blue Byte.

Re: Settlers III Mission CD copy protected by Sysiphus

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:13 pm
by sarami
I bought this. https://redump.info/disc/43270/
There are some error sectors in "SYSTEM.LSK", so this isn't "Ring PROTECH" but "Protected by ring" or "Ring Protect"

http://www.ta-ko.org/index2.htm
According to this site, Ring PROTECH appeared in 2001 summer. The ring protect before 2001 summer is different by manufacturer. e.g. Bleem! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleem! Perhaps Blue Byte is also same.

Re: Settlers III Mission CD copy protected by Sysiphus

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:57 am
by comradesean
sarami wrote:I bought this. https://redump.info/disc/43270/
There are some error sectors in "SYSTEM.LSK", so this isn't "Ring PROTECH" but "Protected by ring" or "Ring Protect"

http://www.ta-ko.org/index2.htm
According to this site, Ring PROTECH appeared in 2001 summer. The ring protect before 2001 summer is different by manufacturer. e.g. Bleem! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleem! Perhaps Blue Byte is also same.
You must be right. It's definitely similar enough to ring protect and it was a 1998 release.

So... I got tired of running it over and over and I decided to run it with DIC with c2 checking.
DiscImageCreator.exe data I "Settlers III - Disc 1" 4 0 228319 /c2 9999 40960 4


So basically it will recheck errored sectors 9,999 times and hopefully whatever is still remaining will be the actual broken sectors. I don't know if this is the best way to go about it, but it's been running for the last week and it's down to 967 remaining error sectors out of a starting 1700. I ran it about 30 times without error checking and none of my dumps matched so this was my next step and once this finishes I will update on the progress.

After this finishes, I will most likely break the data track up into smaller chunks and compare them between each other.