No-Intro naming

[themabus]

This is the chaos that will be and why I don't agree with the change.

well, anything is better than serials though

Who cares if Bonus CD is in a Limited Edition or not? It's archived in DB, what else do you need?

like, what do you mean 'archived in DB'?
as far as i know no miracle happens when you press 'submit'
what does happen though is record gets added so other people can compare their CDs to this one
as if to the other physical medium
so it's basically db of hashes to provide people means to verify and index CDs of their own
so if relation or db record structure is not clear it's not functioning right, that's how i see it
like if this Bonus CD relate to whole set of editions, not just one, i'd expect to find it there when i'll buy any of those
though it won't be most of the time

So why not adding even dates (please in this case insert also "A.D.", it's more cool!), company and so on like tosec shit?

because you're not being rational, Rocknroms
would this information be neccessary - provide additional characteristics,
it would be inserted, in this case in Additional flag
for example, if there would be
Tetris (Japan) & Tetris (Japan)
by 2 different companies those records could look like:
Tetris (Japan) (Square) & Tetris (Japan) (Enix)
ther's nothing wrong with that, imho
TOSEC covers a lot of system where sometimes such generic names collide -
so they have to use this very generalized naming
but we won't need it most likely
since ther's only one Alundra or Final Fantasy or Tekken
editions do merge currently though, that's what i'm concerned about
and definitely i like 'EDC' vs 'noEDC', 'ring1' vs 'ring2', 'edition1' vs 'edition2', etc. better
than synthetic 'v1.0' vs 'v1.1' or 'Alt'

[DJoneK]

I can only say, if there's no actual indication of a (v1.0) or a (v1.1) in the disc itself, it shouldn't be even used.  Instead put the real difference between the two disc.  Be it (Greatest Hits) or (GH) or whatever.  If 2 discs are the exact same version (Original) and they somehow got different hashes for whatever unknown reason, THEN should the (v1.0), (v1.1) be used or even that hated "(Alt)" tag.

This is if the discs don't have a version somewhere in itself, like PS2 discs.

[iR0b0t]

(v1.0) or  (v1.1) can be indicated by time stamps

[DJoneK]

(v1.0) or  (v1.1) can be indicated by time stamps

Obviously.  But, why is it v1.1 instead of say, v2.0?  Or Rev B?  It's a "made up" version number, not something visible on the discs themselves.  I truly don't mind if it stays the way it is.  I'm just trying to give my humble opinion on the matter.  In case anyone cares anyway.

[Jackal]

Because.. Rev is used when it's stamped on the actual chip.. we use the standard naming of v1.0 and v1.1.. that's also how gameshark sites etc. make the distinction.

[layzee]

Obviously.  But, why is it v1.1 instead of say, v2.0?  Or Rev B?  It's a "made up" version number, not something visible on the discs themselves.  I truly don't mind if it stays the way it is.  I'm just trying to give my humble opinion on the matter.  In case anyone cares anyway.

Actually DJoneK makes a good point I think. It makes sense to use version numbers for PS2 media because the version number is actually in the system.cnf file and physically stamped on carts, but using v1.0, v1.1, v2.0, Rev A etc... seems kinda arbitrary for PS1 media.

[F1ReB4LL]

Because.. Rev is used when it's stamped on the actual chip.. we use the standard naming of v1.0 and v1.1.. that's also how gameshark sites etc. make the distinction.

Yes, and I repeat, that all (or almost all) the Saturn CDs and at least Japanese Sega CD and 3DO discs have the revisions in their ringcodes.

Also, No-Intro guys aren't perfect in their conventions. http://blog.goo.ne.jp/ototo2006/c/9c953 … 5e25166cee -- look at the marks on pokemon yellow covers (GBC), clearly A, B, C, D letters (revisions), but their GBx dat uses 1.0/1.1/etc. version naming.

[Powerpuff]

I love the No-Intro naming but I'd like to suggest a little change for multi-disc game names to improve it.

Today multi-disc games are named that way:
GameName (Region) (Disk DiskNumber)
eg : Final Fantasy VII (USA) (Disc 1)

I think it would be clearer if the total disc number was added to the name:
GameName (Region) (Disk DiskNumber of TotalDiscNumber)
eg : Final Fantasy VII (USA) (Disc 1 of 3)

[Macarro]

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